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> But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client applicatio

by jonknee 14y ago

> But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client application. This implies that a user will have to authenticate when using the software and that this authentication will be tied to them as a person. That's not how it works. You have the binaries on your machine and then it phones home periodically to auth (at minimum once per month or six months, the FAQ is confusing). http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html#how-works http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html#how-wor... > You will need to be online when you install and license your software. If you have an annual membership, you'll be asked to connect to the web to validate your software licenses every 30 days. However, you'll be able to use products for 180 days even if you're offline.

jpdoctor 14y ago
> You have the binaries on your machine Then I love this definition of "in the cloud". Even desktop apps are now "cloud" apps!
- jonknee 14y ago
  In Adobe's world: cloud = "Customers never stop paying".
- bdcravens 14y ago
  There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
- bdcravens 14y ago
  There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
- rubinelli 14y ago
  What makes "cloud" so useful is that it is literally nebulous.
tenpoundhammer 14y ago
This is not what I call the cloud, and yes I was way wrong. This is going to get pirated more than ever.
stan_rogers 14y ago
Not all features are installed locally and available as a stand-alone. Downloading the binaries that are installed locally is not zero-cost/zero-time; anyone whose primary access is, say, 3G is going to waste the better part of a month's allotment on installation and upgrades. And >180 days disconnected (or only having hyper-expensive satellite access) is not as far-fetched as you might think; many of the fine-art landscape photographers I know pretty much make their livings on that kind of a schedule. You can almost always find enough electricity to charge/run a laptop (even if that means carting solar panels around); internet access has a few more requirements.
- jonknee 14y ago
  > Not all features are installed locally and available as a stand-alone. Yes they are. Obviously online storage/sharing features require network access to function, but otherwise all features are available without network access. > Downloading the binaries that are installed locally is not zero-cost/zero-time; anyone whose primary access is, say, 3G is going to waste the better part of a month's allotment on installation and upgrades. I agree they should have a physical purchase option for people without appropriate internet access (Apple had to do the same thing with their last update that was download only at first). Updates would be the same in either case, no matter what version you have currently you don't get mailed DVDs containing new camera profiles when they are released... > And >180 days disconnected (or only having hyper-expensive satellite access) is not as far-fetched as you might think; many of the fine-art landscape photographers I know pretty much make their livings on that kind of a schedule. I completely agree and apparently Adobe is willing to work with you if you are off network for long periods of time (by calling customer service). It seems like a pain, but this is the future of software so if this is your work schedule you should prepare for lots of headaches. The pricing seems off to me for a suite where most people only use a few of the apps (personally a 2-app package would be ideal, I could care less about 90% of Adobe's apps). Despite the name, Adobe doesn't get the "cloud" and I am hoping a competitor who does pops up.

by jonknee 14y ago

jpdoctor 14y ago

> You have the binaries on your machine Then I love this definition of "in the cloud". Even desktop apps are now "cloud" apps!

jonknee 14y ago
In Adobe's world: cloud = "Customers never stop paying".
bdcravens 14y ago
There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
bdcravens 14y ago
There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
rubinelli 14y ago
What makes "cloud" so useful is that it is literally nebulous.

tenpoundhammer 14y ago

This is not what I call the cloud, and yes I was way wrong. This is going to get pirated more than ever.

stan_rogers 14y ago

Not all features are installed locally and available as a stand-alone. Downloading the binaries that are installed locally is not zero-cost/zero-time; anyone whose primary access is, say, 3G is going to waste the better part of a month's allotment on installation and upgrades. And >180 days disconnected (or only having hyper-expensive satellite access) is not as far-fetched as you might think; many of the fine-art landscape photographers I know pretty much make their livings on that kind of a schedule. You can almost always find enough electricity to charge/run a laptop (even if that means carting solar panels around); internet access has a few more requirements.

jonknee 14y ago
> Not all features are installed locally and available as a stand-alone. Yes they are. Obviously online storage/sharing features require network access to function, but otherwise all features are available without network access. > Downloading the binaries that are installed locally is not zero-cost/zero-time; anyone whose primary access is, say, 3G is going to waste the better part of a month's allotment on installation and upgrades. I agree they should have a physical purchase option for people without appropriate internet access (Apple had to do the same thing with their last update that was download only at first). Updates would be the same in either case, no matter what version you have currently you don't get mailed DVDs containing new camera profiles when they are released... > And >180 days disconnected (or only having hyper-expensive satellite access) is not as far-fetched as you might think; many of the fine-art landscape photographers I know pretty much make their livings on that kind of a schedule. I completely agree and apparently Adobe is willing to work with you if you are off network for long periods of time (by calling customer service). It seems like a pain, but this is the future of software so if this is your work schedule you should prepare for lots of headaches. The pricing seems off to me for a suite where most people only use a few of the apps (personally a 2-app package would be ideal, I could care less about 90% of Adobe's apps). Despite the name, Adobe doesn't get the "cloud" and I am hoping a competitor who does pops up.