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How does this put a dent in piracy exactly? I think I've heard this sentiment before, but the pirates always figure out a way. Even the article somewhat casuall

How does this put a dent in piracy exactly? I think I've heard this sentiment before, but the pirates always figure out a way. Even the article somewhat casually throws away a line that says pirated apps will continue to exist. I'm just saying, if piracy isn't eliminated completely it's wishful thinking to say it will somehow happen less.

tenpoundhammer 13y ago
I have not researched this thoroughly so I am not one hundred percent sure. But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client application. This implies that a user will have to authenticate when using the software and that this authentication will be tied to them as a person. So if their account is being using for wide spread piracy it will be shut down quickly and that individual will personally be out money and not have access to the service. This still allows for small scale sharing --onsies twosies kind of stuff. However this won't stop piracy of old software only the software going forward. This makes a lot of assumptions, but I think it's basically correct.
- rplacd 13y ago
  > But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client application. I'd argue that's not as simple a change to turn around - not without doing a lot of fundamental plumbing into a very heterogenous set of grody old codebases - even if they do successfully end up booting out the cobwebs in PS and AI, what about replicating that effort in the ever-so-slightly different ID? And then for the Macromedia products? So I don't suspect they'll do anything radically different with this implementation of cloud software - they'll just push the Adobe Updater to the fore. (Although I shouldn't be expecting it: if they do something else that's more invasive then I'll have brought it on myself...) The more interesting question is whether the pirates'll bother to keep up with the updates at all - and if they can't, what that could possibly mean for Adobe.
- nemothekid 13y ago
  Also armchair speculating here, but its hard to imagine a program as resource intensive and as large as photoshop, living behind a web browser or server. At best, I'm assuming it will be an auto updating login, and the cracks will revolve around jumping the login screen.
- jonknee 13y ago
  > But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client application. This implies that a user will have to authenticate when using the software and that this authentication will be tied to them as a person. That's not how it works. You have the binaries on your machine and then it phones home periodically to auth (at minimum once per month or six months, the FAQ is confusing). http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html#how-works http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html#how-wor... > You will need to be online when you install and license your software. If you have an annual membership, you'll be asked to connect to the web to validate your software licenses every 30 days. However, you'll be able to use products for 180 days even if you're offline.
  - jpdoctor 13y ago
    > You have the binaries on your machine Then I love this definition of "in the cloud". Even desktop apps are now "cloud" apps!
    - jonknee 13y ago
      In Adobe's world: cloud = "Customers never stop paying".
    - bdcravens 13y ago
      There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
    - bdcravens 13y ago
      There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
    - rubinelli 13y ago

tenpoundhammer 13y ago

I have not researched this thoroughly so I am not one hundred percent sure. But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client application. This implies that a user will have to authenticate when using the software and that this authentication will be tied to them as a person. So if their account is being using for wide spread piracy it will be shut down quickly and that individual will personally be out money and not have access to the service. This still allows for small scale sharing --onsies twosies kind of stuff. However this won't stop piracy of old software only the software going forward. This makes a lot of assumptions, but I think it's basically correct.

rplacd 13y ago
> But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client application. I'd argue that's not as simple a change to turn around - not without doing a lot of fundamental plumbing into a very heterogenous set of grody old codebases - even if they do successfully end up booting out the cobwebs in PS and AI, what about replicating that effort in the ever-so-slightly different ID? And then for the Macromedia products? So I don't suspect they'll do anything radically different with this implementation of cloud software - they'll just push the Adobe Updater to the fore. (Although I shouldn't be expecting it: if they do something else that's more invasive then I'll have brought it on myself...) The more interesting question is whether the pirates'll bother to keep up with the updates at all - and if they can't, what that could possibly mean for Adobe.
nemothekid 13y ago
Also armchair speculating here, but its hard to imagine a program as resource intensive and as large as photoshop, living behind a web browser or server. At best, I'm assuming it will be an auto updating login, and the cracks will revolve around jumping the login screen.
jonknee 13y ago
> But I assume the application side of this software will live on a server somewhere and you may only access via a web browser or some kind of client application. This implies that a user will have to authenticate when using the software and that this authentication will be tied to them as a person. That's not how it works. You have the binaries on your machine and then it phones home periodically to auth (at minimum once per month or six months, the FAQ is confusing). http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html#how-works http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html#how-wor... > You will need to be online when you install and license your software. If you have an annual membership, you'll be asked to connect to the web to validate your software licenses every 30 days. However, you'll be able to use products for 180 days even if you're offline.
- jpdoctor 13y ago
  > You have the binaries on your machine Then I love this definition of "in the cloud". Even desktop apps are now "cloud" apps!
  - jonknee 13y ago
    In Adobe's world: cloud = "Customers never stop paying".
  - bdcravens 13y ago
    There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
  - bdcravens 13y ago
    There are some cloud components, such as storage and other services. It isn't just the same software with a new license. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-services.html http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/tools-and-servic...
  - rubinelli 13y ago