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You never "need" to pirate software. If you're too cheap/poor to buy Photoshop, use GIMP. Grow up.

by canthonytucci 13y ago

joshmn 13y ago
Let me go tell 12-year-old me that.
- wcfields 13y ago
  Exactly. I always thought that part of Adobes dominance in this market was to allow some piracy of their product because that's how teenagers learned how to use it. Adobe then made their money from actual business users who MAKE money from the tools and therefor must have legit licenses. And those businesses use Adobe because their workforce learned it already, and it became the defacto-standard because of that.
  - andyhmltn 13y ago
    Also: Some of those teenagers will grow up and eventually purchased the product. I (allegedly) pirated Dreamweaver (haha), Flash and Photoshop when I was still learning because I was broke (unless you count £10 a month pocket money as steady income...) After spending a lot of time with those tools, I eventually purchased CS3 and have upgraded to both CS4 and CS6 since then. Not to mention the various licenses I've had to buy for employment.
kevingadd 13y ago
He just described a scenario where he needs to pirate PS 7.0 because Adobe doesn't offer it anymore and modern versions are inferior. Unless GIMP somehow covers all his use cases and can read his PSD files without problems? Unless it's changed since I used it last week, that's false. Basically, there are scenarios where legit customers are stuck pirating. I own licenses for multiple pieces of software that I can now only acquire through torrents because the original vendor doesn't offer the installers anymore (or wants to force you to paid upgrade to a newer version).
- canthonytucci 13y ago
  Do you think he has a license to PS 7.0 and is going to "pirate" it by finding an installer from an alternate source? I did not get that impression. You're not stuck pirating, you're stuck unable to use the software. The choices are pay for software or use FOSS, you're doing both communities a disservice by pirating.
  - kevingadd 13y ago
    Doing that is piracy, though. Which is my point.
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You never "need" to pirate software. If you're too cheap/poor to buy Photoshop, use GIMP. Grow up.

joshmn 13y ago

Let me go tell 12-year-old me that.

wcfields 13y ago
Exactly. I always thought that part of Adobes dominance in this market was to allow some piracy of their product because that's how teenagers learned how to use it. Adobe then made their money from actual business users who MAKE money from the tools and therefor must have legit licenses. And those businesses use Adobe because their workforce learned it already, and it became the defacto-standard because of that.
- andyhmltn 13y ago
  Also: Some of those teenagers will grow up and eventually purchased the product. I (allegedly) pirated Dreamweaver (haha), Flash and Photoshop when I was still learning because I was broke (unless you count £10 a month pocket money as steady income...) After spending a lot of time with those tools, I eventually purchased CS3 and have upgraded to both CS4 and CS6 since then. Not to mention the various licenses I've had to buy for employment.

kevingadd 13y ago

He just described a scenario where he needs to pirate PS 7.0 because Adobe doesn't offer it anymore and modern versions are inferior. Unless GIMP somehow covers all his use cases and can read his PSD files without problems? Unless it's changed since I used it last week, that's false. Basically, there are scenarios where legit customers are stuck pirating. I own licenses for multiple pieces of software that I can now only acquire through torrents because the original vendor doesn't offer the installers anymore (or wants to force you to paid upgrade to a newer version).

canthonytucci 13y ago
Do you think he has a license to PS 7.0 and is going to "pirate" it by finding an installer from an alternate source? I did not get that impression. You're not stuck pirating, you're stuck unable to use the software. The choices are pay for software or use FOSS, you're doing both communities a disservice by pirating.
- kevingadd 13y ago
  Doing that is piracy, though. Which is my point.

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