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In the absence of another more advance means of communicating with a computer, keyboards are all we have. Mice help, new touch screens help, but the big one (I

by mmorett 13y ago

In the absence of another more advance means of communicating with a computer, keyboards are all we have. Mice help, new touch screens help, but the big one (I think) could be voice. And I have no idea what Google Glass uses, but that's another potential example. With VIM, it's not that it's an editor, or old, but downright archaic. Folks just won't let go.

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x1024 13y ago
Open source is only as old as its latest commit. https://code.google.com/p/vim/source/list https://code.google.com/p/vim/source/list Which, in this case, seems to be 5 hours.
- fmoralesc 13y ago
  Also, one of the last commits (patch 924) is a HUGE deal for someone like me who has written plugins in python (global, window and buffer-level options can be now set using vim's python API). Let's hope mappings come next!
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pekk 13y ago
It's fine for you to use whatever tools you want, even if they are under-powered toys. But qualitative hand-waving like 'archaic' shouldn't be confused with an objective disadvantage.
- mmorett 13y ago
  http://delvarworld.github.io/blog/2013/03/16/just-use-sublime-text/ http://delvarworld.github.io/blog/2013/03/16/just-use-sublim... I would love to take credit for having read that prior to using the word archaic. I didn't. I formed my own opinion. I just happened to find that blog post a few minutes ago while searching on Sublime Text 2. The fact that he expresses my thoughts much more elegantly than me fills me with envy. But he's correct.
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  - erifneerg 13y ago
    Did you miss the part where he says over and over how he uses vim? Did you read the replies on reddit where this was originally posted to where there are rebuttal to the author's claims? http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/1aq1lx/just_use_sublime_text/ http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/1aq1lx/just_use_sublime... http://vpaste.net/fA7rH http://vpaste.net/fA7rH Vim is a text editor and that's it. If you want it do be an IDE you're going to have a bad time. I'd recommend this piece on Unix as IDE http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/ http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/
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eliasmacpherson 13y ago
Further to the point made about vim being a text manipulation language - it's very well defined. Voice control is a more advanced means of communicating with a computer, keyboards are not all we have anymore. What you're saying is contradicted by what's demonstrated right here. Voice works right now with vim's text manipulation language, have a look at the vim golf example. This ancient technology could be used to make voice editing a reality for people who would rather learn 'delete five lines' than "5dd". I haven't yet seen another editor that would allow code be manipulated this was with voice controls, besides emacs. It's a testament to the configurability and extensibility of vim that it can stay current in this manner. VimGolf is basically a challenge to make certain edits with as few vim commands as possible. Unless I am mistaken, google glass uses the android voice recognition software.

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x1024 13y ago

Open source is only as old as its latest commit. https://code.google.com/p/vim/source/list https://code.google.com/p/vim/source/list Which, in this case, seems to be 5 hours.

fmoralesc 13y ago
Also, one of the last commits (patch 924) is a HUGE deal for someone like me who has written plugins in python (global, window and buffer-level options can be now set using vim's python API). Let's hope mappings come next!

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pekk 13y ago

It's fine for you to use whatever tools you want, even if they are under-powered toys. But qualitative hand-waving like 'archaic' shouldn't be confused with an objective disadvantage.

mmorett 13y ago
http://delvarworld.github.io/blog/2013/03/16/just-use-sublime-text/ http://delvarworld.github.io/blog/2013/03/16/just-use-sublim... I would love to take credit for having read that prior to using the word archaic. I didn't. I formed my own opinion. I just happened to find that blog post a few minutes ago while searching on Sublime Text 2. The fact that he expresses my thoughts much more elegantly than me fills me with envy. But he's correct.
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- erifneerg 13y ago
  Did you miss the part where he says over and over how he uses vim? Did you read the replies on reddit where this was originally posted to where there are rebuttal to the author's claims? http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/1aq1lx/just_use_sublime_text/ http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/1aq1lx/just_use_sublime... http://vpaste.net/fA7rH http://vpaste.net/fA7rH Vim is a text editor and that's it. If you want it do be an IDE you're going to have a bad time. I'd recommend this piece on Unix as IDE http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/ http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/

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eliasmacpherson 13y ago

Further to the point made about vim being a text manipulation language - it's very well defined. Voice control is a more advanced means of communicating with a computer, keyboards are not all we have anymore. What you're saying is contradicted by what's demonstrated right here. Voice works right now with vim's text manipulation language, have a look at the vim golf example. This ancient technology could be used to make voice editing a reality for people who would rather learn 'delete five lines' than "5dd". I haven't yet seen another editor that would allow code be manipulated this was with voice controls, besides emacs. It's a testament to the configurability and extensibility of vim that it can stay current in this manner. VimGolf is basically a challenge to make certain edits with as few vim commands as possible. Unless I am mistaken, google glass uses the android voice recognition software.