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I enjoyed the article, but I'm very hesitant to believe any news sponsored by or affiliated with Vice. On top of questionable reporting practices, companies ca

I enjoyed the article, but I'm very hesitant to believe any news sponsored by or affiliated with Vice. On top of questionable reporting practices, companies can pay to influence the content of articles and the type of coverage. Examples: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/04/08/130408fa_fact_widdicombe http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/04/08/130408fa_fact_...

weston 13y ago
I haven't had a chance to read that New Yorker article yet, but who would you think would benefit from this bike article? Do you think it's a paid placement from a bike manufacturer? (I'm not being snarky, it's a genuine question.)
IvyMike 13y ago
I am kind of cynical but I just assume that's true with most of the media these days.
onedognight 13y ago
I've seen the original plans on display in Pasadena.
rdouble 13y ago
companies can pay to influence the content of articles and the type of coverage. Like every other publication in the USA? http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
- hawkharris 13y ago
  There's a significant difference between Vice and the publications (like the NY Times) that PG refers to in his article: Vice has a POLICY of taking money from companies in exchange for allowing editorial control. As in, they encourage and have acknowledged this practice. They represent a strange, blurry hybrid between an ad agency and a news outlet.
  - fyi80 13y ago
    Check out the real estate section of your local newspaper. It has a long and glorious tradition.
  - skinnymuch 13y ago
    Makes me prefer Vice. It seems worse and obviously deceptive to routinely do what is mentioned in the article and yet have no policy or anything for it. As if that makes it less wrong (the opposite in my opinion).
rickdale 13y ago
Careful here. I recommend you watch an episode of Vice on HBO. I had my doubts as well, but the reporting on that show is great and my only criticism is that its too short. The article you posted is just an opinion of that person and she doesn't provide specific examples or lay it out objectively. I just recommend checking it out and then judge it for yourself.
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riffic 13y ago
This wikipedia article has further details from multiple sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Cycleway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Cycleway

weston 13y ago

I haven't had a chance to read that New Yorker article yet, but who would you think would benefit from this bike article? Do you think it's a paid placement from a bike manufacturer? (I'm not being snarky, it's a genuine question.)

IvyMike 13y ago

I am kind of cynical but I just assume that's true with most of the media these days.

onedognight 13y ago

I've seen the original plans on display in Pasadena.

rdouble 13y ago

companies can pay to influence the content of articles and the type of coverage. Like every other publication in the USA? http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

hawkharris 13y ago
There's a significant difference between Vice and the publications (like the NY Times) that PG refers to in his article: Vice has a POLICY of taking money from companies in exchange for allowing editorial control. As in, they encourage and have acknowledged this practice. They represent a strange, blurry hybrid between an ad agency and a news outlet.
- fyi80 13y ago
  Check out the real estate section of your local newspaper. It has a long and glorious tradition.
- skinnymuch 13y ago
  Makes me prefer Vice. It seems worse and obviously deceptive to routinely do what is mentioned in the article and yet have no policy or anything for it. As if that makes it less wrong (the opposite in my opinion).

rickdale 13y ago

Careful here. I recommend you watch an episode of Vice on HBO. I had my doubts as well, but the reporting on that show is great and my only criticism is that its too short. The article you posted is just an opinion of that person and she doesn't provide specific examples or lay it out objectively. I just recommend checking it out and then judge it for yourself.

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riffic 13y ago

This wikipedia article has further details from multiple sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Cycleway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Cycleway