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It only works the other way around. When will you learn that world?
by rplnt 14y ago
It only works the other way around. When will you learn that world?
- mayanksinghal 14y agoI think it is only fair in this particular scenario. Indian laws for free speech are quite weak and their application largely political and opportunistic. While I would love the companies to be more responsible in all jurisdictions that they are involved in, I certainly hope that Govt. of India and Indian courts stop issuing frequently and often absurd take-down (and if I am not wrong, even arrest) orders for user generated content.
- misnome 14y agoHow is this at all different from the MegaUpload situation? Company, operating in a different country, not appearing to follow the local laws in the country that is using it's services, and the country wants to do something about it?
- canttestthis 14y agoIf I understand the Megaupload situation correctly, the crimes Megaupload and its executives were accused of were also illegal in the countries in which they were arrested. India's free speech laws are different from the US's though, so the same argument doesn't apply.
- tptacek 14y agoNew Zealand also has a criminal copyright violation statute.
- Retric 14y agoWhich they might not have been violating.
- misnome 14y agoAnd even if they were violating it, if New Zealand didn't want to pursue a case, why should America get the right to "World Police"?
- tptacek 14y agoDon't play daft. Mega was operating a business aimed squarely at the US market and built off the intellectual property of American companies. The US interest in seeing that case prosecuted is clear. If NZ wants to alienate one of the world's largest markets, their largest military ally (and the guarantor of their security, particularly in their shipping lanes) to stick up for a foreign national running a criminal copyright conspiracy on their soil, they're free to do so. Don't get all huffy when they decide not to let that happen.
- rayiner 14y agoDo you really want every twobit country to be able to drag Americans to court?
- youngerdryas 14y agoNo, he wants to blame the US for his country turning him over. If they get a free pass why wouldn't they turn him over?
- misnome 14y agoIf you don't want to hand over your citizens at the whims of other countries, why should you expect any other country to behave the same way?
- rayiner 14y agoBecause I'm not a citizen of those countries. Because we don't have muppet courts. Because we have bigger guns. International relations aren't symmetric.
- wnight 14y agoYou support the USA forcing extradition of foreigners, and you've said that extraordinary rendition isn't a crime, so really it's your turn. I don't support this at all, but I'd let you be taken because you do. That'd end this sooner than your double standard.
- AYBABTME 14y agoThe conclusion I would draw is that the US government is not willing to hand over it's citizens to other countries, while other governments are. In that perspective, I feel the wrong is on the other governments, not on the US.
- hga 14y agoEchoing canttestthis in the other reply subtread, the fundamental principle is that we won't hand over our citizens to other countries for things which are not crimes in our own: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_criminality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_criminality All of Europe refuses to extradite to the US if the death penalty is a possible outcome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition#Bars_to_extradition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition#Bars_to_extradition and futher down it mentions "France, Germany, Russia, Austria, the People's Republic of China, the Republic of China (Taiwan) and Japan" flatly refuse to extradite, something that is certainly not true of the US.