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I'm having the same issue, and also wondering what the official support channel for HN is.

ColinWright 13y ago
Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something (e.g. to ask us questions about Y Combinator, or to ask or complain about moderation). If you want to say something to us, please send it to info@ycombinator.com. -- http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dfc 13y ago
  ...and yet you posted this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5649704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5649704
  - niggler 13y ago
    As we have seen time and time again, internal consistency is for the plebeians
    - koenigdavidmj 13y ago
      A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
      - youngerdryas 13y ago
        Everything in moderation, including moderation.
    - dfc 13y ago
      This is my favorite of Colin's: "Isn't HN amazing? Here is the same article submitted on no less than four previous occasions: * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4185226 * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4170972 * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4355548 * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4167834 Total upvotes: 29. Total discussion: 0. No wonder people try to game the system and find optimal times to submit things. No wonder people think HN is broken."*[1] What he failed to mention is that his submission was the fourth and most recent duplicate (oldest to newest): 4167834: zmanji 4170972: VeXocide 4185226: moobirubi 4355548: ColinWright And obviously he had a justification for his duplicated submission.... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4638756 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4638756
      - niggler 13y ago
        Someone clearly cares deeply about HN karma. Not sure why he cares so much.
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        ColinWright 13y ago
        It's not karma, it's the functioning (and occasional lack thereof) of the "community." Since I run more than one early-stage groups, I'm continuing to learn all I can about what works, what doesn't, what seems broken, and what can be done to make them better. Don't assume you understand my motivations.
      - deleted 13y ago
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      - ColinWright 13y ago
        Yes, I did have a justification: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4639994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4639994 But it now seems clear that this has a personal component: I do have a problem with Colin's crusade against duplicates. -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4638986 Should I stop just because you and a few others say so? many others have repeatedly expressed support. But now that I have a context for your criticisms I know how much weight to give them.
        dfc 13y ago
        Your justification was another, when the rules apply to me there is a built in special case exception. There is nothing personal about it, I have no idea who you are, I am sure that you are a decent human being. I have a problem with hypocrisy. In the case of the duplicates you said "no wonder people think HN is broken" because someone submitted a duplicate story...and you did not mention that the fourth submission was yours. It seemed to me that your behavior was just as worthy of a "no wonder people think HN is broken" as the person who submitted the story for the fifth time.
  - ColinWright 13y ago
    Indeed - at the time no one else had reported problems, and it was a taster/teaser to see if it was just me, or a system-wide problem. I wasn't asking for support, or reporting a problem to HN, just seeing if it was a local SNAFU.
    - niggler 13y ago
      "at the time no one else had reported problems" How do you know others didn't do the right thing (by emailing info@ycombinator.com) ? AFAICT emails sent to the address aren't publicly available.
      - ColinWright 13y ago
        You're right, I didn't know that he hadn't already had a flood of hundreds of emails. However, it was about 4 in the morning in California, so I figured even if he had hundreds of emails, I wouldn't find out quickly. More, I figured that most of the other times something goes wrong at least someone posts to HN asking, and no one had done so. I was hoping to find out if the problem was unique to me, and I suspected it wasn't. I was half hoping to head off the usual flood of posts that something was wrong and let there be just the one place, and I was certainly not expecting this reaction. I am bewildered at the hostility, and going away to try to understand it. I feel a bit like I've been kicked.
        niggler 13y ago
        "I am bewildered at the hostility, and going away to try to understand it. I feel a bit like I've been kicked." IF there's any hostility, it's directed at people and acts that are seen as inconsistent: You point to the rule that says "Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something ... If you want to say something to us, please send it to info@ycombinator.com. " after you made a post telling them that the site is having issues. "More, I figured that most of the other times something goes wrong at least someone posts to HN asking, and no one had done so." That's not an excuse for you to do something which, as you pointed out, violates a rule. "I was half hoping to head off the usual flood of posts that something was wrong and let there be just the one place," Incidentally there is one place that did head off the usual flood of posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5650171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5650171 Are you complaining that it wasn't your post that was the one place?
youngerdryas 13y ago
PG has repeatedly said that HN, despite its size, is still an experiment, so there is no support channel, I'm sure when he has time he will look into it.

Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something (e.g. to ask us questions about Y Combinator, or to ask or complain about moderation). If you want to say something to us, please send it to info@ycombinator.com. -- http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dfc 13y ago
...and yet you posted this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5649704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5649704
- niggler 13y ago
  As we have seen time and time again, internal consistency is for the plebeians
  - koenigdavidmj 13y ago
    A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
    - youngerdryas 13y ago
      Everything in moderation, including moderation.
  - dfc 13y ago
    This is my favorite of Colin's: "Isn't HN amazing? Here is the same article submitted on no less than four previous occasions: * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4185226 * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4170972 * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4355548 * http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4167834 Total upvotes: 29. Total discussion: 0. No wonder people try to game the system and find optimal times to submit things. No wonder people think HN is broken."*[1] What he failed to mention is that his submission was the fourth and most recent duplicate (oldest to newest): 4167834: zmanji 4170972: VeXocide 4185226: moobirubi 4355548: ColinWright And obviously he had a justification for his duplicated submission.... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4638756 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4638756
    - niggler 13y ago
      Someone clearly cares deeply about HN karma. Not sure why he cares so much.
      - deleted 13y ago
        [deleted]
      - ColinWright 13y ago
        It's not karma, it's the functioning (and occasional lack thereof) of the "community." Since I run more than one early-stage groups, I'm continuing to learn all I can about what works, what doesn't, what seems broken, and what can be done to make them better. Don't assume you understand my motivations.
    - deleted 13y ago
      [deleted]
    - ColinWright 13y ago
      Yes, I did have a justification: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4639994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4639994 But it now seems clear that this has a personal component: I do have a problem with Colin's crusade against duplicates. -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4638986 Should I stop just because you and a few others say so? many others have repeatedly expressed support. But now that I have a context for your criticisms I know how much weight to give them.
      - dfc 13y ago
        Your justification was another, when the rules apply to me there is a built in special case exception. There is nothing personal about it, I have no idea who you are, I am sure that you are a decent human being. I have a problem with hypocrisy. In the case of the duplicates you said "no wonder people think HN is broken" because someone submitted a duplicate story...and you did not mention that the fourth submission was yours. It seemed to me that your behavior was just as worthy of a "no wonder people think HN is broken" as the person who submitted the story for the fifth time.
- ColinWright 13y ago
  Indeed - at the time no one else had reported problems, and it was a taster/teaser to see if it was just me, or a system-wide problem. I wasn't asking for support, or reporting a problem to HN, just seeing if it was a local SNAFU.
  - niggler 13y ago
    "at the time no one else had reported problems" How do you know others didn't do the right thing (by emailing info@ycombinator.com) ? AFAICT emails sent to the address aren't publicly available.
    - ColinWright 13y ago
      You're right, I didn't know that he hadn't already had a flood of hundreds of emails. However, it was about 4 in the morning in California, so I figured even if he had hundreds of emails, I wouldn't find out quickly. More, I figured that most of the other times something goes wrong at least someone posts to HN asking, and no one had done so. I was hoping to find out if the problem was unique to me, and I suspected it wasn't. I was half hoping to head off the usual flood of posts that something was wrong and let there be just the one place, and I was certainly not expecting this reaction. I am bewildered at the hostility, and going away to try to understand it. I feel a bit like I've been kicked.
      - niggler 13y ago
        "I am bewildered at the hostility, and going away to try to understand it. I feel a bit like I've been kicked." IF there's any hostility, it's directed at people and acts that are seen as inconsistent: You point to the rule that says "Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something ... If you want to say something to us, please send it to info@ycombinator.com. " after you made a post telling them that the site is having issues. "More, I figured that most of the other times something goes wrong at least someone posts to HN asking, and no one had done so." That's not an excuse for you to do something which, as you pointed out, violates a rule. "I was half hoping to head off the usual flood of posts that something was wrong and let there be just the one place," Incidentally there is one place that did head off the usual flood of posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5650171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5650171 Are you complaining that it wasn't your post that was the one place?

youngerdryas 13y ago

PG has repeatedly said that HN, despite its size, is still an experiment, so there is no support channel, I'm sure when he has time he will look into it.