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Here is a rather different account from American mountaineer Garrett Madison. Some of the details directly contradict Simone Moro's version. I wonder where the

Here is a rather different account from American mountaineer Garrett Madison. Some of the details directly contradict Simone Moro's version. I wonder where the truth lies? http://www.bergadventures.com/v3_cyber/2013/2013-03-22-everest-climb/dispatch-36.php http://www.bergadventures.com/v3_cyber/2013/2013-03-22-evere...

davesque 13y ago
Interesting, thanks for bringing some balance to the story. Incidentally, I've been good friends with a group of Sherpas in Boulder, Colorado for years. I can't even fathom people such as them behaving badly. I'm inclined to take Mr. Moro's story with a grain of salt because of this.
- xorgar831 13y ago
  A good friend of mine is Sherpa too, and used to do assist Everest mountaineers, he now lives in California. Kindest man you'll ever meet. He said he would carry gear all day long, and without shoes. I asked him once why no shoes? He said the mounters wouldn't buy them for him, so he didn't have any. Not sure how common that is, or all of the circumstances, but it did not sound like the mountaineers regarded him as more than a donkey in human form.
  - OGinparadise 13y ago
    >> He said the mounters wouldn't buy them for him, so he didn't have any. Somewhat tangent, but don't they get paid? Not sure how common that is, or all of the circumstances, but it did not sound like the mountaineers regarded him as more than a donkey in human form. Looks like helping climbers and carrying stuff is their job. However, this sherpa thing seems like cheating, you have others carry stuff for you, lay ropes and what not. Maybe since everyone uses them, all climbers are in the same position but still.
    - xorgar831 13y ago
      He was not paid enough to afford shoes. This is Nepal remember, not Palo Alto. The Sherpa are an ethnic group known for being skilled mountaineers, and it is also a way some of them make a living. It's not like they're a climber helping cast.
      - OGinparadise 13y ago
        It's not like they're a climber helping cast. So why do they carry bags and act as "helping cast" for what you say are low wages? Is someone forcing them?
        xorgar831 13y ago
        Yes, the economics of the region. It's a 3rd world country, not to be trite, but if you've never been to a 3rd world country before or read anything about those places, the realities are very different than in the 1st world.
snowwrestler 13y ago
The word of an Italian mountaineer (not known for their humility or good mountain social skills) vs. the Sherpas (famously kind and hard-working). I know which side I'm more likely to believe.

davesque 13y ago

Interesting, thanks for bringing some balance to the story. Incidentally, I've been good friends with a group of Sherpas in Boulder, Colorado for years. I can't even fathom people such as them behaving badly. I'm inclined to take Mr. Moro's story with a grain of salt because of this.

xorgar831 13y ago
A good friend of mine is Sherpa too, and used to do assist Everest mountaineers, he now lives in California. Kindest man you'll ever meet. He said he would carry gear all day long, and without shoes. I asked him once why no shoes? He said the mounters wouldn't buy them for him, so he didn't have any. Not sure how common that is, or all of the circumstances, but it did not sound like the mountaineers regarded him as more than a donkey in human form.
- OGinparadise 13y ago
  >> He said the mounters wouldn't buy them for him, so he didn't have any. Somewhat tangent, but don't they get paid? Not sure how common that is, or all of the circumstances, but it did not sound like the mountaineers regarded him as more than a donkey in human form. Looks like helping climbers and carrying stuff is their job. However, this sherpa thing seems like cheating, you have others carry stuff for you, lay ropes and what not. Maybe since everyone uses them, all climbers are in the same position but still.
  - xorgar831 13y ago
    He was not paid enough to afford shoes. This is Nepal remember, not Palo Alto. The Sherpa are an ethnic group known for being skilled mountaineers, and it is also a way some of them make a living. It's not like they're a climber helping cast.
    - OGinparadise 13y ago
      It's not like they're a climber helping cast. So why do they carry bags and act as "helping cast" for what you say are low wages? Is someone forcing them?
      - xorgar831 13y ago
        Yes, the economics of the region. It's a 3rd world country, not to be trite, but if you've never been to a 3rd world country before or read anything about those places, the realities are very different than in the 1st world.

snowwrestler 13y ago

The word of an Italian mountaineer (not known for their humility or good mountain social skills) vs. the Sherpas (famously kind and hard-working). I know which side I'm more likely to believe.