I know some people that go into programming without a CS degree, but there don't seem to be that many motivated people that learn enough if they don't go throug

I know some people that go into programming without a CS degree, but there don't seem to be that many motivated people that learn enough if they don't go through school. There are tons of people who can program a little in visual basic or something, but when we interview people we ask them to implement a stack/queue and have tons of people who fail to come anywhere close.