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ASP.Net kind of put themselves out of the benchmark game here: Mono Issue #1, since the vast vast majority of ASP.Net websites run on windows a Mono performanc

by apalmer 13y ago

ASP.Net kind of put themselves out of the benchmark game here: Mono Issue #1, since the vast vast majority of ASP.Net websites run on windows a Mono performance test even if accurate is going to be of dubious value. Mono Issue #2, since Mono is nowhere near as polished as the Microsoft .Net implementation the numbers wont really be meaningful. Windows Issue #1, if you do the test on a different OS than every other test implementation, the results really wont be comparable in any fair way. Microsoft Issue #1, dont know if it still holds now a days but in past official EULA for .Net prohibited publishing benchmark results. PERIOD. I am a .net developer and as much as I like ASP.Net I dont think the effort of adding a .Net implementation really would pay off.

bsaul 13y ago
I completely understand your point, but I think it's fair to say that most .Net code will run on Windows server, and that pretty much everything else will run on some kind of linux flavor. Just like you have a "keep the default framework setting" approach to help compare very different frameworks because that's how the majority of people will use them, you may very well assume that comparing frameworks on their preferred OS is fair enough. I know that i wouldn't mind switching to a windows+.Net environment if it proved to be much much faster than what i'm using right now.
- DennisP 13y ago
  Exactly, and if there is such a performance boost, having the numbers would help you figure out whether hardware savings would be worth the licensing cost.
voidlogic 13y ago
Care to backup your Mono claims with evidence? I have a friend who went to a Mono talk at MS MIX where a Mono developer was speaking. The Mono developer said that while Mono is a little slower than .NET (and he was talking a couple percent) Mono often ends up being faster on the same hardware because the Linux system calls the runtime uses are faster. There were a few ROFLs in the audience. I also agree with you that investing in a .NET (Windows) test isn't good bang for the buck here.
- apalmer 13y ago
  I don't know that mono is guaranteed to be slower or not, but definitely a lot fewer man hours have gone into polishing mono as compared to the amount of effort spent to polish the .net framework on windows. Further, even if Mono itself is as fast as the .net framework, IIS the web server is going to be totally different performance characteristics from whatever webserver you are using on linux. I am glad you showed me the error of my ways because I would have guess .net was somewhat faster than mono, but it goes to show even more comparing across operating systems is meaningless... now i would love to get my hands on the numbers dont get me wrong, just saying if i was running the project I wouldnt go through the amount of effort required to get the .net results.

by apalmer 13y ago

bsaul 13y ago

I completely understand your point, but I think it's fair to say that most .Net code will run on Windows server, and that pretty much everything else will run on some kind of linux flavor. Just like you have a "keep the default framework setting" approach to help compare very different frameworks because that's how the majority of people will use them, you may very well assume that comparing frameworks on their preferred OS is fair enough. I know that i wouldn't mind switching to a windows+.Net environment if it proved to be much much faster than what i'm using right now.

DennisP 13y ago
Exactly, and if there is such a performance boost, having the numbers would help you figure out whether hardware savings would be worth the licensing cost.

voidlogic 13y ago

Care to backup your Mono claims with evidence? I have a friend who went to a Mono talk at MS MIX where a Mono developer was speaking. The Mono developer said that while Mono is a little slower than .NET (and he was talking a couple percent) Mono often ends up being faster on the same hardware because the Linux system calls the runtime uses are faster. There were a few ROFLs in the audience. I also agree with you that investing in a .NET (Windows) test isn't good bang for the buck here.

apalmer 13y ago
I don't know that mono is guaranteed to be slower or not, but definitely a lot fewer man hours have gone into polishing mono as compared to the amount of effort spent to polish the .net framework on windows. Further, even if Mono itself is as fast as the .net framework, IIS the web server is going to be totally different performance characteristics from whatever webserver you are using on linux. I am glad you showed me the error of my ways because I would have guess .net was somewhat faster than mono, but it goes to show even more comparing across operating systems is meaningless... now i would love to get my hands on the numbers dont get me wrong, just saying if i was running the project I wouldnt go through the amount of effort required to get the .net results.