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No, fathers do not get 3 years paid leave in Europe. Mothers can, in certain countries, with a very reduced wage (paid for by the state most often). Fully paid

No, fathers do not get 3 years paid leave in Europe. Mothers can, in certain countries, with a very reduced wage (paid for by the state most often). Fully paid paternity leave is around 14 days and you can often take more by reducing your pay to 50/60% (depends on countries and employers). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave#Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave#Europe (I can confirm this for France and Germany.)

hkmurakami 13y ago
iirc, mothers can currently take 2 years off (I imagine at a reduced wage) in Japan. I think they are discussing extending this to 3 years to try to combat their low childbirth problem (though I don't think this will be effective).
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Samuel_Michon 13y ago
From your own link: “In the Czech Republic and Slovakia, it is standard that mothers stay at home for 3 years after a child's birth, which may extend with additional children. Mothers can decide to take 2, 3 or 4 years of maternity leave. It is also possible for the fathers to take the leave instead of the mothers but it is not common.” Anyways, you’re missing the point. In the US, no parental leave is mandated whatsoever, which is why an employer offering 2 months is apparently a reason to rejoice. Few developed countries offer so little.
- dfxm12 13y ago
  In the US, no parental leave is mandated whatsoever People say this like it is a bad thing (and like it is true). First and foremost, the FMLA guarantees 12 weeks leave (unpaid) for qualified workers (men & women). From there, it is up to the states and different employers to offer benefits to gain a competitive advantage. Some states mandate paid leave, plus other benefits, others are expanding this. Some companies offer additional paid leave, plus other benefits. To determine an American's parental leave benefits, you have to add the benefits from the federal government, the state government and the employer. For example, if I had a child tomorrow, I'd get 4 weeks leave paid in full plus I have the option of additional leave at 66% of my salary, and even more unpaid. Overall, it is true that benefits seem better in other countries, but saying that there is no parental leave mandated in the US is disingenuous and completely ignores the fact that it is handled in other ways.
  - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
    I shouldn’t have written “[in the US] no parental leave is mandated whatsoever”. That isn’t the case per se, and I didn’t mean to imply so. I do feel the situation is way less secure for workers in the US than it is in many European countries.
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hkmurakami 13y ago

iirc, mothers can currently take 2 years off (I imagine at a reduced wage) in Japan. I think they are discussing extending this to 3 years to try to combat their low childbirth problem (though I don't think this will be effective).

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Samuel_Michon 13y ago

From your own link: “In the Czech Republic and Slovakia, it is standard that mothers stay at home for 3 years after a child's birth, which may extend with additional children. Mothers can decide to take 2, 3 or 4 years of maternity leave. It is also possible for the fathers to take the leave instead of the mothers but it is not common.” Anyways, you’re missing the point. In the US, no parental leave is mandated whatsoever, which is why an employer offering 2 months is apparently a reason to rejoice. Few developed countries offer so little.

dfxm12 13y ago
In the US, no parental leave is mandated whatsoever People say this like it is a bad thing (and like it is true). First and foremost, the FMLA guarantees 12 weeks leave (unpaid) for qualified workers (men & women). From there, it is up to the states and different employers to offer benefits to gain a competitive advantage. Some states mandate paid leave, plus other benefits, others are expanding this. Some companies offer additional paid leave, plus other benefits. To determine an American's parental leave benefits, you have to add the benefits from the federal government, the state government and the employer. For example, if I had a child tomorrow, I'd get 4 weeks leave paid in full plus I have the option of additional leave at 66% of my salary, and even more unpaid. Overall, it is true that benefits seem better in other countries, but saying that there is no parental leave mandated in the US is disingenuous and completely ignores the fact that it is handled in other ways.
- Samuel_Michon 13y ago
  I shouldn’t have written “[in the US] no parental leave is mandated whatsoever”. That isn’t the case per se, and I didn’t mean to imply so. I do feel the situation is way less secure for workers in the US than it is in many European countries.

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