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I don't know where the 3 year figure comes from, never heard of anything like it. More likely is that you'll see the father taking 2-5 months and the mother 7-

I don't know where the 3 year figure comes from, never heard of anything like it. More likely is that you'll see the father taking 2-5 months and the mother 7-10 months. The parental leave you have is also available during the first few years, so many don't take the full duration right away. I also believe the money comes from the state, not that the company has to pay during that time.

greghinch 13y ago
I only know about the UK policies, where I believe the first few months are covered by the state, but there is a period that the company has to cover as well. Also the money is only part of the problem; if you have 5 people in a company, every one of them is a key, integral part of that company. Having one away for 7 months would be disastrous.
- purplelobster 13y ago
  Of course, it's a trade-off for society, unless you can have two types of employment. Long parental leave works in bigger organizations, because there tends to be people who can fill in, but for smaller ones less so. Countries without parental leave in effect force every couple to delay having children, quit their jobs or spend very little time with their little ones, all in favor of startups. Might be the only way that works, I don't know, but it kind of sucks.
- dagw 13y ago
  Ideally you'll get 4-6 month of warning, which should be plenty of time to find some sort of arrangement. How much warning would you get if one of your employees get headhunted by Google, burns out and quits or even gets hit by that proverbial bus, and how would that be any different? Contingency planning is a big part of running a company, and the question what happens if one of my employees doesn't show up for work tomorrow, really should be a question you can answer
danielbarla 13y ago
E.g. in Hungary, it can be up to 3 years: http://www.budapestagent.com/hungarian-mothers-longest-paid-maternity-leave-cee.html http://www.budapestagent.com/hungarian-mothers-longest-paid-... I.e. you don't receive your full salary for the period, but your employer is basically required to give you back your position after 3 years, if you chose to take that long (most people will take only 2 or so). With multiple children, you could actually stay at home for quite a long time.
Samuel_Michon 13y ago
> I don't know where the 3 year figure comes from From the link in the earlier article: Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Slovakia, and Finland offer 3 years. Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Sweden, Estonia, and Russia offer 1 year. > More likely is that you'll see the father taking 2-5 months and the mother 7-10 months. I wasn’t talking about what people choose to do, I was talking about what they are entitled to by law. > I also believe the money comes from the state, not that the company has to pay during that time. That is different in each country, but even in the countries where the money comes from the state, the employer will have paid for it in social insurance fees.
- purplelobster 13y ago
  Finland (the only country you mentioned that is similar to the US economically) does not have 3 years paid leave. It does not seem like the other ex soviet states and Slovakia does either, no idea where they got that information from.
  - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
    It’s a project by UCLA School of Health’s World Policy Center. From their site: The selection of data sources for the World Policy Analysis Center was based on the approach outlined below. Preference was given to primary sources (e.g. constitutions or laws as specified in country’s legislation). If these were not available we obtained information from secondary sources (e.g. referral to a law or policy in a different text). Secondary sources were reviewed in cases where the information from primary sources was unclear or lacking, or to complement this information (with priority given to sources that were comparable across multiple countries). Documents were reviewed in their original language or as translated into one of the UN’s official languages. If you have better data, I’d love to see it.

greghinch 13y ago

I only know about the UK policies, where I believe the first few months are covered by the state, but there is a period that the company has to cover as well. Also the money is only part of the problem; if you have 5 people in a company, every one of them is a key, integral part of that company. Having one away for 7 months would be disastrous.

purplelobster 13y ago
Of course, it's a trade-off for society, unless you can have two types of employment. Long parental leave works in bigger organizations, because there tends to be people who can fill in, but for smaller ones less so. Countries without parental leave in effect force every couple to delay having children, quit their jobs or spend very little time with their little ones, all in favor of startups. Might be the only way that works, I don't know, but it kind of sucks.
dagw 13y ago
Ideally you'll get 4-6 month of warning, which should be plenty of time to find some sort of arrangement. How much warning would you get if one of your employees get headhunted by Google, burns out and quits or even gets hit by that proverbial bus, and how would that be any different? Contingency planning is a big part of running a company, and the question what happens if one of my employees doesn't show up for work tomorrow, really should be a question you can answer

danielbarla 13y ago

E.g. in Hungary, it can be up to 3 years: http://www.budapestagent.com/hungarian-mothers-longest-paid-maternity-leave-cee.html http://www.budapestagent.com/hungarian-mothers-longest-paid-... I.e. you don't receive your full salary for the period, but your employer is basically required to give you back your position after 3 years, if you chose to take that long (most people will take only 2 or so). With multiple children, you could actually stay at home for quite a long time.

Samuel_Michon 13y ago

> I don't know where the 3 year figure comes from From the link in the earlier article: Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Slovakia, and Finland offer 3 years. Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Sweden, Estonia, and Russia offer 1 year. > More likely is that you'll see the father taking 2-5 months and the mother 7-10 months. I wasn’t talking about what people choose to do, I was talking about what they are entitled to by law. > I also believe the money comes from the state, not that the company has to pay during that time. That is different in each country, but even in the countries where the money comes from the state, the employer will have paid for it in social insurance fees.

purplelobster 13y ago
Finland (the only country you mentioned that is similar to the US economically) does not have 3 years paid leave. It does not seem like the other ex soviet states and Slovakia does either, no idea where they got that information from.
- Samuel_Michon 13y ago
  It’s a project by UCLA School of Health’s World Policy Center. From their site: The selection of data sources for the World Policy Analysis Center was based on the approach outlined below. Preference was given to primary sources (e.g. constitutions or laws as specified in country’s legislation). If these were not available we obtained information from secondary sources (e.g. referral to a law or policy in a different text). Secondary sources were reviewed in cases where the information from primary sources was unclear or lacking, or to complement this information (with priority given to sources that were comparable across multiple countries). Documents were reviewed in their original language or as translated into one of the UN’s official languages. If you have better data, I’d love to see it.