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Obviously, the word "stole" is not used in the literal sense here. Mind you, an employment contract has been signed with the candidate. However, I'm not upset

Obviously, the word "stole" is not used in the literal sense here. Mind you, an employment contract has been signed with the candidate. However, I'm not upset at the candidate because he was apologetic.

facorreia 13y ago
Your choice of words, "stole" and "my" implicates a mindset that is not very aligned with the reality. They didn't steal. He was not yours, but free. He evaluated his options and made a choice. Now, we could find fault in his character for signing a contract and breaking it soon after. But startups offering below market compensation packages would do better not thinking about employees as their property.
- felixdennis 13y ago
  I think you guys are taking this too seriously. Take a chill pill. Realistically, there is nothing a startup can do to compete with Google for employees unless you are a founder/co-founder. You guys can't be seriously about thinking that I was actually pissed off at Google for this?! While we are making good money, I was just shocked that we would be competing with Google for talents since we are so tiny.
lsc 13y ago
>Mind you, an employment contract has been signed with the candidate. However, I'm not upset at the candidate because he was apologetic. I assume you are in California? From what I understand (and I'm no lawyer, but I am an employer.) if you think that you can force someone to work for you because they have an employment contract, well, I believe you will be disappointed. "at will" employment cuts both ways. I mean, really, the "validation of your hiring decisions" is the only rational way to look at this. Handle it properly, and you have another contact at google who speaks well of you. Handle it poorly, and, well, you just end up looking like a dick.
- felixdennis 13y ago
  I agree. That's why I wished him the best of luck. Like I mentioned in the topic, it is pointless to trying to keep someone when his/her heart is not here - just like a romantic relationship , no salvage possible.
OGinparadise 13y ago
Still it's used in a negative way, suggesting Google did something bad. You could've said "Google handed my third employee a $25K raise" ;)
mtgx 13y ago
But it is used to incite strong emotions against Google. Just like "stealing movies", isn't really "stealing", but "copyright infringement", but the studios call it stealing anyway ("pirating movies is just like shoplifting", etc).
- felixdennis 13y ago
  I agree with your definition. I rest my case as it is pointless to engage in an internet debate.

facorreia 13y ago

Your choice of words, "stole" and "my" implicates a mindset that is not very aligned with the reality. They didn't steal. He was not yours, but free. He evaluated his options and made a choice. Now, we could find fault in his character for signing a contract and breaking it soon after. But startups offering below market compensation packages would do better not thinking about employees as their property.

felixdennis 13y ago
I think you guys are taking this too seriously. Take a chill pill. Realistically, there is nothing a startup can do to compete with Google for employees unless you are a founder/co-founder. You guys can't be seriously about thinking that I was actually pissed off at Google for this?! While we are making good money, I was just shocked that we would be competing with Google for talents since we are so tiny.

lsc 13y ago

>Mind you, an employment contract has been signed with the candidate. However, I'm not upset at the candidate because he was apologetic. I assume you are in California? From what I understand (and I'm no lawyer, but I am an employer.) if you think that you can force someone to work for you because they have an employment contract, well, I believe you will be disappointed. "at will" employment cuts both ways. I mean, really, the "validation of your hiring decisions" is the only rational way to look at this. Handle it properly, and you have another contact at google who speaks well of you. Handle it poorly, and, well, you just end up looking like a dick.

felixdennis 13y ago
I agree. That's why I wished him the best of luck. Like I mentioned in the topic, it is pointless to trying to keep someone when his/her heart is not here - just like a romantic relationship , no salvage possible.

OGinparadise 13y ago

Still it's used in a negative way, suggesting Google did something bad. You could've said "Google handed my third employee a $25K raise" ;)

mtgx 13y ago

But it is used to incite strong emotions against Google. Just like "stealing movies", isn't really "stealing", but "copyright infringement", but the studios call it stealing anyway ("pirating movies is just like shoplifting", etc).

felixdennis 13y ago
I agree with your definition. I rest my case as it is pointless to engage in an internet debate.