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There must be more to this than what Maimi New Times is reporting. When I was in school half the kids in science class were constantly scheming on how to get th

by steve19 14y ago

There must be more to this than what Maimi New Times is reporting. When I was in school half the kids in science class were constantly scheming on how to get their hands on chemicals to mix them, heat them and generally be irresponsible. Edit: I suspect she stole the chemicals and/or this was a repeat offense.

rpedroso 14y ago
It's probably worth noting, as someone who lives in Miami, that the New Times is considered closer to a tabloid than a reputable journal. I can't speak for this particular article, but I would not be surprised if there were editorializing substantially.
- illuminate 14y ago
  It's an alt-weekly. Not really tabloid, but definitely covers local issues that the mainstream papers wouldn't.
joenathan 14y ago
>Edit: I suspect she stole the chemicals and/or this was a repeat offense. There are no grounds to suspect such, the article says "Kiera Wilmot got good grades and had a perfect behavior record.". It's more reasonable to assume that this reaction is a result of the increased fear that recent bombings and school shootings have brought about.
- olefoo 14y ago
  My immediate reaction to seeing the multiple occurrences of "She must have done something to deserve it." in this thread was "Because, Racism!". But on second thought, it's probably just the reflexive servility of the average american. The "authorities" charged her with something, so they must be right. Bah, I mean, what's one more black girl driven to a life of marginalization and petty crime because she was too inquisitive; after all. She wasn't the first, she won't be the last; the system is supposed to divert people like her into career paths appropriate to her social status; in this case, curiosity about vinegar and baking soda means that meth cook is her only viable career choice; because it's not like she could learn enough to be an actual chemist or anything... This country is FCKD, if we are wasting the potential intellectual capacity of our young, like we are here.
  - VLM 14y ago
    "if we are wasting the potential intellectual capacity of our young" What if we have more capacity that we can use? WRT to half of STEM grad not working in STEM and all that. You don't need a chemist at the local factory anymore when the factory moves to China. The other thing is its a balance. Destroy an innocent life, vs the school administrators saved the school from terrorism, the prosecute saved the public from terrorism, the profitable prison industrial complex will make money off her...
  - michh 14y ago
    "Something awful happened to someone, they must have done something to deserve it" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis It's such a common bias. And we all suffer from it.
CurtMonash 14y ago
Perhaps we can lay that and any similar suspicions to rest: http://www.9news.com/news/article/332375/188/Teen-arrested-expelled-for-science-project-gone-bad http://www.9news.com/news/article/332375/188/Teen-arrested-e... "She is a good kid," said principal Ron Pritchard. "She has never been in trouble before. Ever."
- VLM 14y ago
  I'm not sure if that should matter. I got picked up for truancy one time. Therefore in comparison I should get the death penalty. Seems irrelevant unless it directly relates to the situation (perhaps they yelled at her, then they wrote her up, then they yelled at her parents, then a suspension, then the fifth time she did the same exact harmless thing they called the FBI/CIA/NSA/Blackwater on her)
InclinedPlane 14y ago
Yeah, maybe this is going to far, but you're an ass. The article specifically mentions, in the first goddamn sentence, that she has good grades and a perfect record. My guess is that you think she is a thief and a repeat offender based on prejudice due to her race.
- steve19 14y ago
  Wow, so I am both an ass and a racist because I expressed my opinion that I think there is more to the story that was reported, despite me saying that when I was at school this was common place (inferring that I don't think her alleged "crime" is a crime at all). Suddenly the media are perfect and without spin. I don't judge people based on their race, gender or sexual identity. You on the other hand seem quick to jump to accusing people of racism. You either view the world through a race-based lens or maybe you just play the race card to rack up your (impressive) HN karma.

by steve19 14y ago

rpedroso 14y ago

It's probably worth noting, as someone who lives in Miami, that the New Times is considered closer to a tabloid than a reputable journal. I can't speak for this particular article, but I would not be surprised if there were editorializing substantially.

illuminate 14y ago
It's an alt-weekly. Not really tabloid, but definitely covers local issues that the mainstream papers wouldn't.

joenathan 14y ago

>Edit: I suspect she stole the chemicals and/or this was a repeat offense. There are no grounds to suspect such, the article says "Kiera Wilmot got good grades and had a perfect behavior record.". It's more reasonable to assume that this reaction is a result of the increased fear that recent bombings and school shootings have brought about.

olefoo 14y ago
My immediate reaction to seeing the multiple occurrences of "She must have done something to deserve it." in this thread was "Because, Racism!". But on second thought, it's probably just the reflexive servility of the average american. The "authorities" charged her with something, so they must be right. Bah, I mean, what's one more black girl driven to a life of marginalization and petty crime because she was too inquisitive; after all. She wasn't the first, she won't be the last; the system is supposed to divert people like her into career paths appropriate to her social status; in this case, curiosity about vinegar and baking soda means that meth cook is her only viable career choice; because it's not like she could learn enough to be an actual chemist or anything... This country is FCKD, if we are wasting the potential intellectual capacity of our young, like we are here.
- VLM 14y ago
  "if we are wasting the potential intellectual capacity of our young" What if we have more capacity that we can use? WRT to half of STEM grad not working in STEM and all that. You don't need a chemist at the local factory anymore when the factory moves to China. The other thing is its a balance. Destroy an innocent life, vs the school administrators saved the school from terrorism, the prosecute saved the public from terrorism, the profitable prison industrial complex will make money off her...
- michh 14y ago
  "Something awful happened to someone, they must have done something to deserve it" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis It's such a common bias. And we all suffer from it.

CurtMonash 14y ago

Perhaps we can lay that and any similar suspicions to rest: http://www.9news.com/news/article/332375/188/Teen-arrested-expelled-for-science-project-gone-bad http://www.9news.com/news/article/332375/188/Teen-arrested-e... "She is a good kid," said principal Ron Pritchard. "She has never been in trouble before. Ever."

VLM 14y ago
I'm not sure if that should matter. I got picked up for truancy one time. Therefore in comparison I should get the death penalty. Seems irrelevant unless it directly relates to the situation (perhaps they yelled at her, then they wrote her up, then they yelled at her parents, then a suspension, then the fifth time she did the same exact harmless thing they called the FBI/CIA/NSA/Blackwater on her)

InclinedPlane 14y ago

Yeah, maybe this is going to far, but you're an ass. The article specifically mentions, in the first goddamn sentence, that she has good grades and a perfect record. My guess is that you think she is a thief and a repeat offender based on prejudice due to her race.

steve19 14y ago
Wow, so I am both an ass and a racist because I expressed my opinion that I think there is more to the story that was reported, despite me saying that when I was at school this was common place (inferring that I don't think her alleged "crime" is a crime at all). Suddenly the media are perfect and without spin. I don't judge people based on their race, gender or sexual identity. You on the other hand seem quick to jump to accusing people of racism. You either view the world through a race-based lens or maybe you just play the race card to rack up your (impressive) HN karma.