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I'm going to remain on the fence. I had tabs in Vim. Then I switched to Emacs, found out the tabs options sucked. Now I have ido-mode. It's a nice mode of opera

by flogic 18y ago

I'm going to remain on the fence. I had tabs in Vim. Then I switched to Emacs, found out the tabs options sucked. Now I have ido-mode. It's a nice mode of operation. Though I'm not sure it's a good mode for the average Joe. Though, I've found people will learn lots of things if it has the right pay off. People get by fairly well on their own when it comes to web mail and the various social networking sites. For some reason they need training on "work" tools but personal tools.

krakensden 18y ago
Yeah, but when you're editing text, you're working with a relatively limited number of files, ones that you probably work with often. That doesn't map well to web browsing, a lot of which is exploratory. I know I use the tab bar as a sort of `to read' list, piling up things I will pay attention to later.
- flogic 18y ago
  Once I've piled up some context, I tend to hover around 40 file buffers open. Tabs just won't do that well even on the sidebar.
  - ken 18y ago
    You're a lightweight! I work with somebody who never closes buffers (with ido-mode and enough of RAM, there's just not much point). When I met him, his Emacs session had over 1100 buffers open. Then he found midnight-mode. I think these days he tends to have only 300-some-odd buffers open at any one time.
- rtra 18y ago
  I use 'conkeror' as my main web browser, which is a emacs-like browser running on xulrunner. I can have 10+ pages open and switch rapidly to the one i want by typing C-x b <3 letters of a keyword> return For me this beats regular tabs.
  - mnemonicsloth 18y ago
    I've been using Conkeror for about four months now, and while I like the Emacs-like interface and the ability to mess around with the presentation of pages, there are definitely a few warts 1. I had no idea how much I relied on the throbber icon until it was gone. For a fairly new piece of hacker-ware, there are surprisingly few usability glitches, but this one makes up for most. 2. Emacs lets you display any buffer (browser tab) in any desktop frame ("window"). This is the only intelligent way to manage this relationship, and the fact that browsers effectively restrict tabs to the frames where they were spawned is what made me try Conkeror out in the first place. For the moment, though, Conkeror is like Firefox, although the developers seem to be working on it.

by flogic 18y ago

krakensden 18y ago

Yeah, but when you're editing text, you're working with a relatively limited number of files, ones that you probably work with often. That doesn't map well to web browsing, a lot of which is exploratory. I know I use the tab bar as a sort of `to read' list, piling up things I will pay attention to later.

flogic 18y ago
Once I've piled up some context, I tend to hover around 40 file buffers open. Tabs just won't do that well even on the sidebar.
- ken 18y ago
  You're a lightweight! I work with somebody who never closes buffers (with ido-mode and enough of RAM, there's just not much point). When I met him, his Emacs session had over 1100 buffers open. Then he found midnight-mode. I think these days he tends to have only 300-some-odd buffers open at any one time.
rtra 18y ago
I use 'conkeror' as my main web browser, which is a emacs-like browser running on xulrunner. I can have 10+ pages open and switch rapidly to the one i want by typing C-x b <3 letters of a keyword> return For me this beats regular tabs.
- mnemonicsloth 18y ago
  I've been using Conkeror for about four months now, and while I like the Emacs-like interface and the ability to mess around with the presentation of pages, there are definitely a few warts 1. I had no idea how much I relied on the throbber icon until it was gone. For a fairly new piece of hacker-ware, there are surprisingly few usability glitches, but this one makes up for most. 2. Emacs lets you display any buffer (browser tab) in any desktop frame ("window"). This is the only intelligent way to manage this relationship, and the fact that browsers effectively restrict tabs to the frames where they were spawned is what made me try Conkeror out in the first place. For the moment, though, Conkeror is like Firefox, although the developers seem to be working on it.