Totally OT, but... HAL/DBUS are like 5 years old (without actually looking that up), and they come from Freedesktop.org, not Ubuntu. I think they might even p

Totally OT, but... HAL/DBUS are like 5 years old (without actually looking that up), and they come from Freedesktop.org, not Ubuntu. I think they might even pre-date Ubuntu, at least I remember it being in Fedora in the early days before I used Ubuntu. Also, I don't much understand this "Ubuntu is too user friendly" nonsense. That's kind of a main objective of Ubuntu, if you think it's going to cause problems then use Debian. If Debian is too sissified for you, Linux From Scratch isn't going anywhere, give that a whirl, you can 'rm -rf /' til the cows come home (or until you actually run that completely pointless command).