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> Why do people get out of their way to use some marginal browser when there better both proprietary and open source options available? This is simple: None ar

by sgift 14y ago

> Why do people get out of their way to use some marginal browser when there better both proprietary and open source options available? This is simple: None are available (for me). They are (take your pick for your specific browser): - Slow - Memory-inefficient (i.e. they either use too much memory when I need it for other tasks or they use not enough when I don't need it and they could use it to provide a better experience, e.g. faster tab switching) - Instable for my use case (50-100 tabs) - Have no good mouse gestures (all the plugins for FF suck) - ...

stinos 14y ago
- Have no integrated mail system
coldtea 14y ago
So the public for Opera is bizarro outliers? (100 tabs! Love of mouse gestures!)
- claudius 14y ago
  At 7 billion people on this planet, there well may be enough ‘bizarro outliers’ who don’t want a Mac OS X-like browsing experience to justify a special browser.
- stinos 14y ago
  I acknowledge your point on the tabs, but not on the gestures. It provides a genius way execute actions, probably faster than anything else. I would almost say that is a fact, and that if you don't agree then it's because you haven't used it.
  - qu4z-2 14y ago
    I'm still using firefox because of pentadactyl. It lets you switch to a tab by substring search of title/url. If you have 100 tabs open (I often do too) how do you switch to a specific tab with mouse gestures? (Genuinely curious; seems a shame to have to specify, but I don't want to be misunderstood)
TheDag 14y ago
I've used Opera for a long time, and when I started using it it was simply alone on top of a lot of crap browsers. Now there are several decent alternatives, all of which are very frustrating for me. I work on multiple computers and have multiple computers at home. I'm lazy. Hence, no plugins should be required, so I get the experience I want installing just the browser. For the most part Chrome or Fox or even IE10 behave similarly enough that I can almost use them instead of Opera. I think there's just 2 exceptions. Whenever I use another browser I find myself getting frustrated with 2 things: (1) Nothing happens when I "roll-left" over the mouse buttons (navigate back). (2) Tabs MORONICALLY cycle left-to-right, rather than in most recently used order. Both are show-stoppers for me, and I don't care if a plug-in can fix it, as long as Opera is otherwise more or less on par with the alternatives.

by sgift 14y ago

stinos 14y ago

- Have no integrated mail system

coldtea 14y ago

So the public for Opera is bizarro outliers? (100 tabs! Love of mouse gestures!)

claudius 14y ago
At 7 billion people on this planet, there well may be enough ‘bizarro outliers’ who don’t want a Mac OS X-like browsing experience to justify a special browser.
stinos 14y ago
I acknowledge your point on the tabs, but not on the gestures. It provides a genius way execute actions, probably faster than anything else. I would almost say that is a fact, and that if you don't agree then it's because you haven't used it.
- qu4z-2 14y ago
  I'm still using firefox because of pentadactyl. It lets you switch to a tab by substring search of title/url. If you have 100 tabs open (I often do too) how do you switch to a specific tab with mouse gestures? (Genuinely curious; seems a shame to have to specify, but I don't want to be misunderstood)

TheDag 14y ago

I've used Opera for a long time, and when I started using it it was simply alone on top of a lot of crap browsers. Now there are several decent alternatives, all of which are very frustrating for me. I work on multiple computers and have multiple computers at home. I'm lazy. Hence, no plugins should be required, so I get the experience I want installing just the browser. For the most part Chrome or Fox or even IE10 behave similarly enough that I can almost use them instead of Opera. I think there's just 2 exceptions. Whenever I use another browser I find myself getting frustrated with 2 things: (1) Nothing happens when I "roll-left" over the mouse buttons (navigate back). (2) Tabs MORONICALLY cycle left-to-right, rather than in most recently used order. Both are show-stoppers for me, and I don't care if a plug-in can fix it, as long as Opera is otherwise more or less on par with the alternatives.