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Two things that make me suspect this information is anecdotal rather than from a hiring manager (though I could be wrong): 1) I left MSFT around 2006, but the
by larsberg 13y ago
Two things that make me suspect this information is anecdotal rather than from a hiring manager (though I could be wrong):
1) I left MSFT around 2006, but the offers I made to (admittedly, mostly blue chip) candidates in 2002-2004 were closer to 80k and not even at the top end of the L59 level band. I'm not sure those early year numbers are quite spot on.
2) The initial offers are set for the middle of the L59 compensation range/band. As those bands went up, so did all of the others - I guarantee the L59 band is not above the L60 band. If you got hired in 2006, you're at least L62 by six years later (or you would have been managed out, in any non-disfunctional org). Even if you'd been camping and never made L63 (which is a big bump), you would get raises as the midpoint for the band moved over the years. Otherwise, it raises very serious issues with your group's HR generalist about why you have a L62 who's being paid outside (below or above) the acceptable range around the salary band and the manager would have been encouraged to either motivate or manage out the employee, if they really didn't deserve raises to take them back into the correct compensation range.
Microsoft is disfunctional about many things, but the HR generalists were pretty good at tracking and running numbers and asking very hard questions about people who were over/under-compensated or stagnating at a low level (sub-L63).
- lawnchair_larry 13y agoI don't know what all that Microsoft-specific talk means, but you can confirm his numbers by checking the H1-B wage data from MS. I don't recall what the numbers are, but I recall it being fairly close to those supplied in recent years.
- yajoe 13y ago> I left MSFT around 2006 The company changed significantly since then. Bill left. There was a layoff (well, a couple, but the first was a black swan nonetheless). There is a new review system and new rules about comp. It's not the same place you remember. I really liked the MSFT around 2006, too :)
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