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How many times is this going to be reposted to HackerNews? How many times are we going to bring up the same issues with this interpretation? Like, for example:

by criley 13y ago

How many times is this going to be reposted to HackerNews? How many times are we going to bring up the same issues with this interpretation? Like, for example: the assumption that every STEM graduate wants to work in STEM fields, and that the failure of a STEM grad to find work in a STEM field is a failure of the STEM field instead of a personal decision of the STEM grad to pursue whatever career they want.

davidw 13y ago
> How many times are we going to bring up the same issues with this interpretation? Another great reason to flag articles that are primarily political in nature, although I have to admit this one is fairly close to a lot of us.
ebbv 13y ago
So every issue only gets one post at HN and then it's done forever? Since this is an issue which is actively being reformed right now, it seems to me that posting current (same day), informational posts about it is totally valid.
- criley 13y ago
  There are no new developments, just more news outlets using (subjectively) bad interpretations of existing ideas/data. Look at a site like http://www.memeorandum.com http://www.memeorandum.com -- for any one news story, a dozen news outlets report on it (discussion section of links). That's what's going on here: a new outlet decides to report on the same information that someone already scooped and we already discussed, and then we start the dog and pony show up here again and repeat all of our discussions with the same information we had 3 days ago, and 5 days ago, etc, when the other articles came out. We had some brilliant people make some brilliant comments last time around, will we achieve that quality on the repeat post? Is it worthwhile to redo the effort?
  - roc 13y ago
    > " Is it worthwhile to redo the effort?" Last time around certainly wasn't the first time around for this issue. So if HN was in the habit of retiring subjects, there wouldn't have been any of those brilliant comments you referred to. And yet you're going to use those comments to argue for the retirement of the subject?
rpgmaker 13y ago
To anyone interested, this link is referenced within the article and I think it offers a great deconstruction of what is wrong with the H1-B visa program: http://www.cringely.com/2012/10/23/what-americans-dont-know-about-h-1b-visas-could-hurt-us-all/ http://www.cringely.com/2012/10/23/what-americans-dont-know-...

by criley 13y ago

davidw 13y ago

> How many times are we going to bring up the same issues with this interpretation? Another great reason to flag articles that are primarily political in nature, although I have to admit this one is fairly close to a lot of us.

ebbv 13y ago

So every issue only gets one post at HN and then it's done forever? Since this is an issue which is actively being reformed right now, it seems to me that posting current (same day), informational posts about it is totally valid.

criley 13y ago
There are no new developments, just more news outlets using (subjectively) bad interpretations of existing ideas/data. Look at a site like http://www.memeorandum.com http://www.memeorandum.com -- for any one news story, a dozen news outlets report on it (discussion section of links). That's what's going on here: a new outlet decides to report on the same information that someone already scooped and we already discussed, and then we start the dog and pony show up here again and repeat all of our discussions with the same information we had 3 days ago, and 5 days ago, etc, when the other articles came out. We had some brilliant people make some brilliant comments last time around, will we achieve that quality on the repeat post? Is it worthwhile to redo the effort?
- roc 13y ago
  > " Is it worthwhile to redo the effort?" Last time around certainly wasn't the first time around for this issue. So if HN was in the habit of retiring subjects, there wouldn't have been any of those brilliant comments you referred to. And yet you're going to use those comments to argue for the retirement of the subject?

rpgmaker 13y ago

To anyone interested, this link is referenced within the article and I think it offers a great deconstruction of what is wrong with the H1-B visa program: http://www.cringely.com/2012/10/23/what-americans-dont-know-about-h-1b-visas-could-hurt-us-all/ http://www.cringely.com/2012/10/23/what-americans-dont-know-...