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Remember the hubbub two years ago when Apple was collecting GPS data? http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/04/iphone-customers-lawsuit-data/ http://www.wired.co

by herge 13y ago

Remember the hubbub two years ago when Apple was collecting GPS data? http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/04/iphone-customers-lawsuit-data/ http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/04/iphone-customers-laws...

adfadf 13y ago
IIRC they did that without informing or asking their users for permission. Contrast that with android which is opt-in.
- sarvinc 13y ago
  Also they didn't collect the information or share it with third parties and well it was a bug. I don't agree with the OP but I think it's unfair to contrast what Apple did with anything that also wasn't a bug. It would sort of be like comparing what Apple did with security vulnerabilities in Android; the user isn't informed, notified and permission isn't asked for on the other hand Google and Apple weren't/aren't doing so purposefully.
- ctdonath 13y ago
  The problem here is the long-term tendency is to turn opt-in into "if you don't opt in you don't get any of our services". Kinda like HIPPA medical privacy rights in the USA: when you go to a doctor, they'll hand you a paper for you to sign acknowledging you understand your privacy rights...then they hand you another paper for you to sign away those rights; if you don't sign both, you don't get any medical service. Imagine a not-distant future where if you don't opt-in to questionable services from Google, Apple & Microsoft, you're flatly denied use of any of their products - digitally ostracizing yourself from most of society.
  - dreamfactory 13y ago
    Like not getting invited to parties and gatherings if you don't use facebook or not being approached for jobs if you don't use linkedin? We're already there.
huxley 13y ago
The hubbub was due to some bugs in iOS location services and wasn't ever directly accessed by Apple or shared with 3rd parties. http://www.apple.com/ca/pr/library/2011/04/27Apple-Q-A-on-Location-Data.html http://www.apple.com/ca/pr/library/2011/04/27Apple-Q-A-on-Lo... All smartphone providers track the same sort of data in roughly the same way, it's part of what makes location software work.

by herge 13y ago

adfadf 13y ago

IIRC they did that without informing or asking their users for permission. Contrast that with android which is opt-in.

sarvinc 13y ago
Also they didn't collect the information or share it with third parties and well it was a bug. I don't agree with the OP but I think it's unfair to contrast what Apple did with anything that also wasn't a bug. It would sort of be like comparing what Apple did with security vulnerabilities in Android; the user isn't informed, notified and permission isn't asked for on the other hand Google and Apple weren't/aren't doing so purposefully.
ctdonath 13y ago
The problem here is the long-term tendency is to turn opt-in into "if you don't opt in you don't get any of our services". Kinda like HIPPA medical privacy rights in the USA: when you go to a doctor, they'll hand you a paper for you to sign acknowledging you understand your privacy rights...then they hand you another paper for you to sign away those rights; if you don't sign both, you don't get any medical service. Imagine a not-distant future where if you don't opt-in to questionable services from Google, Apple & Microsoft, you're flatly denied use of any of their products - digitally ostracizing yourself from most of society.
- dreamfactory 13y ago
  Like not getting invited to parties and gatherings if you don't use facebook or not being approached for jobs if you don't use linkedin? We're already there.

huxley 13y ago

The hubbub was due to some bugs in iOS location services and wasn't ever directly accessed by Apple or shared with 3rd parties. http://www.apple.com/ca/pr/library/2011/04/27Apple-Q-A-on-Location-Data.html http://www.apple.com/ca/pr/library/2011/04/27Apple-Q-A-on-Lo... All smartphone providers track the same sort of data in roughly the same way, it's part of what makes location software work.