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I hate to be the one to say this but I feel it's true. If Amanda Palmer were Adam Palmer he could have messed up a hundred different ways, turned to drugs, fath

I hate to be the one to say this but I feel it's true. If Amanda Palmer were Adam Palmer he could have messed up a hundred different ways, turned to drugs, fathered 10 children and abandoned them all and still not attracted the same lame attempted controversy. Every time I read controversy about Amanda its more forced and more angry & bitter than the last time. I'm convinced it's envy and jealousy. There's a lot of guys who dream of being in a band and seeing a woman (who's music is good but not great, and whose looks aren't bleached blond porn star) rise above them so quickly just pisses them off. So they do what they've always historically done. Attack that bitch and put her in her place. How dare she make it in this world. How dare she surpass them. === Kickstarter "Drag the Bitch Down" campaign list === - Amanda Palmer, Anita Sarkeesian, Susan Wilson & her 9 year old daughter. (if you don't know about Wilson: http://kotaku.com/internet-rallies-against-kickstarter-for-nine-year-old-459542190 http://kotaku.com/internet-rallies-against-kickstarter-for-n... + http://www.dailydot.com/news/reddit-kickstarter-rpg-mackenzie-wilson-susan/ http://www.dailydot.com/news/reddit-kickstarter-rpg-mackenzi... ) All 3 successful. At the time of their attack they had not failed to deliver to their backers. 2 of the 3 had their personal lives viciously verbally attacked by internet hate groups. Sarkeesian and Wilson were ripped a new hole. Palmer just invoked anger without the rage, probably because she has a lot of male fans. Men seem to avoid messing with women who have male fans, due to the possibility of getting their ass kicked. Search for "kickstarter controversies" on google and you'll get mostly Palmer and Wilson. === Kickstarter gentleman who are forgiven or forgotten. === - Josh Dibb, aka Deakin still hasn't delivered backer's rewards after 3 years. He isn't really talked about. - Schuyler Towne, big delayed delivery, broken gifts, mental breakdown. Have you heard of him? - Diaspora project, failure, long delays, needs more funding, 1 suicide. All 3 failed to deliver. No campaigns of hatred and revenge. If I'm missing something contradictory please let me know. I don't want to believe this is the world we still live in, but that's what current evidence is showing so far. Theoretical Lesson: If you're a woman and you're about to make a whole lot of men jealous. Make sure you have a picture of a strong, tall, beefy alpha male in your kickstarter video. Your chances of being messed with will be much lower.

summerdown2 13y ago
The thing is, I think you could be right AND there might be an interesting conversation to be had about Amanda Palmer's business model. There does seem to be a thing on the internet where women who divert from the norm get cut down much more viciously than a man would. I think this might be an interesting conversation to have and I've no idea what the fix might be other than time and generational change (which I think is coming). However, I think there is also a discussion to be had about how we fund the digital age, because it really isn't clear how artists will get paid in future. And a lot of the attempts so far do look like begging. My own view is that there is something awkward in the use of unpaid labour as a business model, but I'm not sure what else can be done. Eventually, the internet looks like it will trend towards to free access for everyone to all media at all times. My personal lack of comfort is that all the payment models I've seen so far decouple the product from the person. To some degree I would suggest that in the past we've paid for good product, but in the future we're increasingly asked to pay for a good person. The difficulty is that this favours the extrovert publicists over the quiet artists and I wish there was some way it might look like this latter group had a future, too.
illuminate 13y ago
"Amanda Palmer, Anita Sarkeesian, Susan Wilson" Three women, but the only one attacked because of the MRAs was Sarkeesian.

summerdown2 13y ago

The thing is, I think you could be right AND there might be an interesting conversation to be had about Amanda Palmer's business model. There does seem to be a thing on the internet where women who divert from the norm get cut down much more viciously than a man would. I think this might be an interesting conversation to have and I've no idea what the fix might be other than time and generational change (which I think is coming). However, I think there is also a discussion to be had about how we fund the digital age, because it really isn't clear how artists will get paid in future. And a lot of the attempts so far do look like begging. My own view is that there is something awkward in the use of unpaid labour as a business model, but I'm not sure what else can be done. Eventually, the internet looks like it will trend towards to free access for everyone to all media at all times. My personal lack of comfort is that all the payment models I've seen so far decouple the product from the person. To some degree I would suggest that in the past we've paid for good product, but in the future we're increasingly asked to pay for a good person. The difficulty is that this favours the extrovert publicists over the quiet artists and I wish there was some way it might look like this latter group had a future, too.

illuminate 13y ago

"Amanda Palmer, Anita Sarkeesian, Susan Wilson" Three women, but the only one attacked because of the MRAs was Sarkeesian.