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The biggest acts make their money touring. Pandora should help smaller bands line up shows in towns where they are popular, and help them promote those shows t
by paulsutter 14y ago
The biggest acts make their money touring.
Pandora should help smaller bands line up shows in towns where they are popular, and help them promote those shows to interested fans. They have the data and the consumer relationships to do it.
Bands would appreciate this service far more than a meager check. And it would be much cheaper for Pandora (those song royalties eat up all their revenue). I listen to hundreds of bands on Pandora, and I'd definitely attend more shows if only I knew when they were playing locally.
EDIT: Even $100 is far better than a check for cents. And such a service would increase attendance at shows. They key is that bands would _appreciate_ it, whereas they feel angered by insulting little checks.
- brianbreslin 14y agoThat should be easy for them to do. They have geo ip info, also know your tastes. Say you listen to Mumford n sons, but lumineers is coming to town, you might enjoy that show.
- tptacek 14y agoSmall acts make fuck-all touring. Members of bands who have put out multiple records on well-known indie labels routinely make $50-100 for a single show. Touring revenue is great if you're one of a few big ticket acts; it is a lie we tell ourselves to justify not paying for albums from almost all of the rest of them.
- noonespecial 14y agoApparently they make the same fuck-all when we buy the albums. "Paying" for the albums is just a lie we tell ourselves to justify handing all of the money to a middle man so we can just get our music right now without actually having to do anything about the injustice of the big fat mess the music industry became?
- tptacek 14y agoNo, that's not true, because the middle-men were actually paying the artists. But, nice try.
- noonespecial 14y agoSometimes. But I've danced so now I'll say. The retail model was crummy to artists even when it worked. It's ending. Streaming isn't picking up the slack. Piracy isn't hurting as much as we're led to believe but it sure as hell isn't helping. I'm saying that we have a resposibilty to support the artists we like (and in some cases to figure out how best to do it) or we're all going to be listening to hobbyists. I'm arguing for a return to patronage. Connected 21st century patronage.
- tptacek 14y agoHow exactly was the retail model crummy to artists? The conventional wisdom seems to be that the model was crummy because artists barely, if ever, recouped royalties. But that was often because their advances were calibrated to prevent that from happening --- which is again how the publishing business model works. The thing the retail model seems to have done is provide predictable income streams to artists. What seems to be looming after the retail model, between streaming services and Kickstarter, is a model that provide patchy and unpredictable incomes to well-known artists and a hobbyist position for virtually everyone else.
- tunesmith 14y agoCompletely false equivalence. We make guaranteed margin off the albums and the cost/risk has already been born in production costs, and we also have control over just how much we involve the middle-men.
- anigbrowl 14y agoThe biggest acts make their money touring. Yes, and they charge so much that it leaves people with less money to attend concerts by smaller acts. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=87981&page=1 http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=87981&page=1 http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2012/120525tickets http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2012/120525tickets