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It also sounds as though he never discovered common keyboard shortcuts. He complains about command-tab behavior being different from Windows, but I've found th

It also sounds as though he never discovered common keyboard shortcuts. He complains about command-tab behavior being different from Windows, but I've found that command-tab for switching between applications and command-` for window switching within application windows on that desktop works even better for me. I'm almost never guessing what the order of windows will be.

graeme 13y ago
I do wish that command-` switched back and forth between windows before cylcing through them, like cmd-tab does.
- ams6110 13y ago
  Yep this little inconsistency still annoys me after years of using Mac OS X. Most of the time when I'm toggling windows with the keyboard I want to go back and forth between two windows. With the Mac I have to remember to use Shift with Cmd-` (or not) depending on which window I'm on.
  - graeme 13y ago
    Well, I just learned something new. Didn't know about the shift option. Though I still prefer the initial back and forth behavior used by default with cmd-tab for programs.
- ollysb 13y ago
  Maybe it's because I use a browser all day but I actually prefer the consistent forward/backward cycling behaviour (with command-shift-` for back).
zmmmmm 13y ago
> I've found that command-tab for switching between applications and command-` for window switching within application windows on that desktop works even better for me I constantly get frustrated because it's so hard to get windows of different applications side by side. Cmd-tab raises all the windows of an application above everything else, so I can't easily pull windows of two different applications to the top at the same time, unless I carefully apportion screen space so nothing is overlapping. For example, I often like to fill the screen with two terminal windows side-by-side, but then every time I cmd-tab to either terminal window Chrome gets hidden so I can't see what I was researching on the web.
- m_mueller 13y ago
  You'd profit a lot from a second screen.

graeme 13y ago

I do wish that command-` switched back and forth between windows before cylcing through them, like cmd-tab does.

ams6110 13y ago
Yep this little inconsistency still annoys me after years of using Mac OS X. Most of the time when I'm toggling windows with the keyboard I want to go back and forth between two windows. With the Mac I have to remember to use Shift with Cmd-` (or not) depending on which window I'm on.
- graeme 13y ago
  Well, I just learned something new. Didn't know about the shift option. Though I still prefer the initial back and forth behavior used by default with cmd-tab for programs.
ollysb 13y ago
Maybe it's because I use a browser all day but I actually prefer the consistent forward/backward cycling behaviour (with command-shift-` for back).

zmmmmm 13y ago

> I've found that command-tab for switching between applications and command-` for window switching within application windows on that desktop works even better for me I constantly get frustrated because it's so hard to get windows of different applications side by side. Cmd-tab raises all the windows of an application above everything else, so I can't easily pull windows of two different applications to the top at the same time, unless I carefully apportion screen space so nothing is overlapping. For example, I often like to fill the screen with two terminal windows side-by-side, but then every time I cmd-tab to either terminal window Chrome gets hidden so I can't see what I was researching on the web.

m_mueller 13y ago
You'd profit a lot from a second screen.