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Mark Zuckerberg’s political group funds ads promoting Keystone and ANWR drilling

7 points by jboynyc 14y ago

spamrprtr 14y ago
How anyone on this forum can claim to believe in science and rationality and not abhor this is appalling and beyond me.
- illuminate 14y ago
  Compartmentalization. Smart people can hold incredibly stupid beliefs. I believe Michael Shermer's book on "Why People Believe Weird Things" argues that smart persons are actually better at self-rationalization of untrue/cognitively dissonant "facts".
MaysonL 14y ago
One more reason not to work for, or use, Facebook. A few high-profile resignations or rejections might make a difference.
- curt 14y ago
  You do realize that if the current global temperature trends continue for another 2 years every global warming model will fall outside the 95% confidence interval (ie, wrong).
  - waps 14y ago
    You're missing the point. You're conflating 2 ideas: 1) science is so much better and verifiable ! (this is for atheist versus religious people discussions ONLY) 2) when I actually verify $scientific_theory it doesn't stand up to scrutiny (this is for discussions against farmaceutical companies denying that they understood the effects of a drug 40 years ago EXCLUSIVELY) 3) Oh my god we're all going to die because some grad student claims it's once again a lot worse ! (this is for climate change discussions) You see your mistake ? The world is massively invested in climate disaster theory being right. We've got 20 years of treaties, massive infrastructure dependant on it. Lots of important people getting elected, getting cushy jobs, getting ... and you're just saying that looking at the numbers it doesn't work out. Then you're giving people 2 options : a) global warming is true and yet worse still and man-made and ... ! ($10 billion "well spent" by politicians on their friends) b) global warming ... is a natural phenomenon that just starts and ends, humans or not, policies or no policies ! $10 billion bribery scandal ! Fire them all ! You're asking loads of people to acknowledge they've been stupid for decades. Many of them (esp. the grad students) have never known any other way of doing things ... good luck with that. Get on the bandwagon. Find some vaguely reasonable excuse for people to pay you millions (think Solyndra) because "we're all going to die of global warming ! More money !". You'll have much more success, because the whole house of cards depends on having ever more people on the payroll. If you're loud enough, they'll have to include you too.
kkwok 14y ago
This reminds me of the South-Western pact decades ago to support western projects in exchange for their votes on civil rights. Happens all the time, but impressive that people actually caught on and linked these two.

7 points by jboynyc 14y ago

spamrprtr 14y ago

How anyone on this forum can claim to believe in science and rationality and not abhor this is appalling and beyond me.

illuminate 14y ago
Compartmentalization. Smart people can hold incredibly stupid beliefs. I believe Michael Shermer's book on "Why People Believe Weird Things" argues that smart persons are actually better at self-rationalization of untrue/cognitively dissonant "facts".

MaysonL 14y ago

One more reason not to work for, or use, Facebook. A few high-profile resignations or rejections might make a difference.

curt 14y ago
You do realize that if the current global temperature trends continue for another 2 years every global warming model will fall outside the 95% confidence interval (ie, wrong).
- waps 14y ago
  You're missing the point. You're conflating 2 ideas: 1) science is so much better and verifiable ! (this is for atheist versus religious people discussions ONLY) 2) when I actually verify $scientific_theory it doesn't stand up to scrutiny (this is for discussions against farmaceutical companies denying that they understood the effects of a drug 40 years ago EXCLUSIVELY) 3) Oh my god we're all going to die because some grad student claims it's once again a lot worse ! (this is for climate change discussions) You see your mistake ? The world is massively invested in climate disaster theory being right. We've got 20 years of treaties, massive infrastructure dependant on it. Lots of important people getting elected, getting cushy jobs, getting ... and you're just saying that looking at the numbers it doesn't work out. Then you're giving people 2 options : a) global warming is true and yet worse still and man-made and ... ! ($10 billion "well spent" by politicians on their friends) b) global warming ... is a natural phenomenon that just starts and ends, humans or not, policies or no policies ! $10 billion bribery scandal ! Fire them all ! You're asking loads of people to acknowledge they've been stupid for decades. Many of them (esp. the grad students) have never known any other way of doing things ... good luck with that. Get on the bandwagon. Find some vaguely reasonable excuse for people to pay you millions (think Solyndra) because "we're all going to die of global warming ! More money !". You'll have much more success, because the whole house of cards depends on having ever more people on the payroll. If you're loud enough, they'll have to include you too.

kkwok 14y ago

This reminds me of the South-Western pact decades ago to support western projects in exchange for their votes on civil rights. Happens all the time, but impressive that people actually caught on and linked these two.