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A) Those edge cases you speak of are not part of the dominant discourse. When woman on woman sexism is approached in the dominant discourse it's in the form of
by s_baby 13y ago
A) Those edge cases you speak of are not part of the dominant discourse. When woman on woman sexism is approached in the dominant discourse it's in the form of...
>In the few cases where other women are shown as the problem they are framed as victims of patriarchal socialization not responsible for their behavior.
B) You're making some big assumptions about my awareness of sociology.
- detcader 13y agoA) Dominant discourse as in the occasional Jezebel article you see shared on FB or actual gender and sexuality studies? What is your experience with the latter? B) You're not giving much to address those assumptions.
- s_baby 13y agoA1) I meant both independently though you can't really separate the two. Academic feminism is just as involved in creating a public discourse as they are an academic one. B) Why would I? The question was obviously a red herring just like the "mouth frothing" ad-hom. My competence in the matter is sufficient. I switched my major from sociology to CS with a focus on machine learning/data. I've dated several feminists and have been tangentially involved at various points in my life. Not that any of this matters. It's a completely irrelevant question.
- vacri 13y agoB) Why would I? Because at the time this comment was made, the 'mouth-frothing' ad-hom hadn't yet been made, which is a bit of revisionism on your part. You also speak of 'the question obviously being a red herring'... but there was no such question posed - you were the one that brought up the significance of your background. How can a non-existent thing be an obvious red herring?
- vacri 13y agoA) 'Edge cases'? 'Few cases'? Ha. B) I like how you elect to stay mysterious on this point. Since you didn't bother to actually clear anything up and explain where you're coming from, you sound just like yet another pride-wounded MRA mouth-frother.
- s_baby 13y agoWhy would I waste my time proving myself to someone so rude and bigoted? If you're as familiar with gender studies as you say you are and these "complex narratives" are as ubiquitous as you claim you should easily be able to show us several counter examples. You can't because you've obviously never seen this literature.
- vacri 13y agoI have done exactly the same thing you have - I thought that was obvious in the way I phrased it. Just declare "it's this" and moved on. You've provided nothing of substance in the way of rebuttal at all, just a defensive "you don't know about me", and even now, you continue to avoid supporting your statements. And 'show us several examples'? Really? So I get to go and do more work, only for you to hand-wave them away with "yeah, but those are just edge-cases". How does one prove anything is not an 'edge case' with a couple of examples? As for rudeness and bigotry, it's pretty much what I thought you were being by just dismissing my statement as 'edge cases' when they're not. 'Feminism is 1-dimensional' is as bigoted as anything I've said. And despite you being pride-wounded at how I assumed your background (which you still haven't fronted up with), you say I've 'never seen this literature', assuming my background. And now, interestingly, not even allowing for the existence of your 'edge cases', because that literature now 'doesn't exist'.