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IANAW, but this almost seems sexist in and of itself. Is Github shielding the delicate female programmers from the merciless wrath of internet trolls? I guess t
by woah 14y ago
IANAW, but this almost seems sexist in and of itself. Is Github shielding the delicate female programmers from the merciless wrath of internet trolls? I guess the assumption is that big strong male programmers don't need this kind of coddling.
- marquis 14y agoThis reply is exactly why this initiative is needed. Can't you just say 'hey, more people contributing to open source!'
- dcope 14y agoHow is pushing code to a private repository 'contributing to open source'?
- marquis 14y agoI expect that if a significant portion of work was done to an existing fork, or a significant bug found, it would be celebrated and immediately pushed back to the community. It would be exactly the same as if I downloaded Linux, made some awesome changes then sat on it and just shared it with my friends. A ridiculous thought.
- jcoder 14y agoThey're learning together and need collaboration tools.
- bryanlarsen 14y agoThis makes it easier for people to clean up their code before letting the world see it. I wouldn't be surprised if it made some people more willing to contribute.
- SeanDav 14y agoI doubt you would have felt the same way if Github had announced they were making free repositories available, but only to male developers...
- marquis 14y agoYour statement doesn't make any sense given the context nor add to the argument.
- jcoder 14y agoNope, just giving support to a demographic that they'd like to see growth in. It's what smart companies do.
- TomaszZielinski 14y agoYou mean you would support them as much if they supported white males with blond hair ?
- jcoder 14y agoAnnnnnnd we've gone full Godwin in less than an hour! Nice work, HN. Hit the showers.
- jacalata 14y agoshowers? in context...really? :)
- theorique 14y agoI don't see what Finnish men have to do with Godwin. Mennään saunat, miehet!
- TomaszZielinski 14y ago1. You could also say that Alphabetus law says that in any discussion the likelihood of using all letters of alphabet approaches 1. So what? Godwin's law doesn't say anything about validity or invalidity of mentioning Nazis or Hitler. 2. I meant neither Nazis nor Hitler. I merely pointed out that if they were giving free accounts to a group that is not (considered to be) discriminated then suddenly it wouldn't be so cool. And just in case: there are many white males with blond hair around, I know quite a few personally and I've never suspected them to be Nazis. If you have any proof that some of them are give me a shout so that I can unfriend them!
- theorique 14y agoHow do you prove that you're a woman? Also, does a transwoman count?
- marquis 14y agoAda accepts all those who identify as female. Any trans-gender or female-identifying person should feel safe applying here. (I'm not in anyway affiliated with Ada, just checked their website).
- raganwald 14y agoHN often takes the collective position that businesses should be able to discriminate as they see fit, to do business with whom they see fit, and to set prices (e.g. other threads about "price gouging") as they see fit. Perhaps Github is merely a business doing as they see fit?
- Pewpewarrows 14y agoThere's a difference between HN believing that businesses should legally be allowed to do all of the above, and HN believing that it's socially / morally wrong to do any of the above. (Note that this is merely a reply to your comment in a vacuum, and shouldn't be construed as me supporting either "side" in this thread.)
- raganwald 14y agoMy statement isn't actually supporting either side of this thread either, just pointing out that their behaviour seems quite consistent with the things HN has vocally defended with all the zeal of a college freshman who has just discovered "Atlas Shrugged."
- Pewpewarrows 14y agoAnd again, there's the belief that someone should have the legal right to perform an action, regardless of whether or not that action is reprehensible. Ex: You should have the legal right to believe that all green-skinned humans are inferior to blue-skinned humans. But that belief makes you a jerk and I will judge you for it.
- raganwald 14y ago"You must do what you think is right, of course"--Obi-Wan Kenobi But we should confuse how you or I feel with the aggregate behaviour of HN in toto. My observation is that as a herd, HN approves of the legality, morality, and sanity of businesses, especially tech startups, making unconstrained choices that may appear "discriminatory" to others.