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#ifihadglass I would jailbreak it and modify the software
- thurn 14y agoAccessing root on a device by using the built-in debug mode counts as "jailbreaking" now?
- saurik 14y agoThe debug mode gives you locked-down adb access, not root.
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- danilocampos 14y agoReally, dude? You're going to sass saurik on the subject of jailbreaking? Know your history.
- obituary_latte 14y agoHN: where everyone is an expert. A vile, condescending, hate-filled expert.
- gfodor 14y agoYeah, like you know anything about HN.
- vlaskovits 14y agoGenius level trolling.
- sturmeh 14y agoI'm sorry, we're not talking about a locked down iOS device here.
- brian_cloutier 14y agoJailbreaking isn't quite as fun when it's a matter of > reboot-bootloader > fastbook oem unlock
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- sisk 14y agoI know, right? P.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia
- saurik 14y agoThat lets you flash the device, it doesn't give you root. To get root from that you need to make a bootable image, which requires a compatible kernel, which you normally pull off the device as root. Thankfully, there is a race condition in the backup/restore mechanism that lets you do a symlink traversal to unlock root adb (by modifying /data/local.prop). (To be clear, though, this was a known exploit: it is normally done to the Android Settings application, which isn't present on the Glass, but it turns out that the Glass Logging service also has the right prerequisites to pull off the attack, so I adapted the restore payload. The tweet I posted right after this one made it clear what exploit I was using against what installed package.)
- MostAwesomeDude 14y agoThank you so much for doing this. I knew it was only a matter of time and it's very heartwarming to see that Glass will remain useful for hackers.
- drdaeman 14y agoI don't know anything about Glass, but I believe, usually, if one can reflash the device, one should generally be able to dump any MTD partition contents, too. If that is the case, rooting is as simple as getting to the bootloader, asking it to dump the root partition, unpacking (in case of cramfs, SquashFS or alikes), modifying, repacking (if necessary) and flashing back. At least, this was the possible with D-Link and TP-Link routers (using pre-flashed u-boot) and Tegra-based Android tablet (using nvflash).
- aren55555 14y agoGoogle Glass runs Android 4.0.4, which is subject to the adb restore race condition; com.google.glass.logging fits the needed configuration. https://twitter.com/saurik/status/327857009754001408 https://twitter.com/saurik/status/327857009754001408
- ChrisClark 14y agoOr you can just use adb to unlock it. It's built right in. It's not 'fastboot unlock' but it's an actual adb command on Glass, specifically to unlock it so you can root it. No need to try and find a back door. As Tim Bray put it, "Yes, Glass is hackable. Duh."
- chriscoyfish 14y ago#healreadyhasglass
- guard-of-terra 14y agoWhy would I even need a device that is supposed to become part of my mind but that I don't have root on? Come on. UPD: I already have my mind where I don't have "root" on. It's kind of a black box. And it is counterproductive.
- alex_marchant 14y agoSomeone start working on a psychotropic that takes back control from the amygdala and call it "su".
- gojomo 14y agoThis thread and especially your comment remind me of Cory Doctorow's short story '0wnz0red': http://www.salon.com/2002/08/28/0wnz0red/ http://www.salon.com/2002/08/28/0wnz0red/
- njloof 14y ago... And gives it to what? My prefrontal cortex volunteers, but it's always so pushy.
- nooneelse 14y agoMy Broca's and Wernicke's areas often go on and on about how good a job they would do with sudo privileges. And they say their arguments are well formed.
- huhtenberg 14y agoYou have the root, you just don't have the API spec :)
- jacquesm 14y agoIt appears to be mostly sandboxed.
- ihuman 14y agoI wish I had root on my mind, so I could better script it. Also, I would install vim on it.
- kvnn 14y agoI believe that demand will exist for software that requires jail breaking, and hardware that interfaces with Glass's standard inputs. Think of high-income professionals who can make $xx,xxx more per year by face-identifying people in the street and knowing their job and income. I don't believe Google's API supports this, and there are bounds of examples I'm sure.
- anonfunction 14y agoLast night me and my buddy were talking about the future of personal transportation and how when cars (or helicopters) start flying themselves people will resort to jailbreaking them to take back control.
- tbrownaw 14y ago...why? Having control of the car requires paying attention to the car and surroundings. I'd rather be able to ignore all that and have more time for reading (whether educational or entertainment) and such.
- slg 14y agoSome people actually enjoy driving/flying. That said, in order to get the true efficiency of computer controlled vehicles, it really helps to have them all computer controlled.
- moheeb 14y agoI don't believe that anyone truly enjoys driving. If that were the case I could say "I need a ride to North Dakota" and someone would totally be like "yeah I love driving, hop in!" That never happens. People that love surfing will surf at every opportunity you give them, people that love eating will eat nearly anything you put in front of them. People that love driving.....well I need a ride to North Dakota.
- yew 14y agoI enjoy flying, though not driving, and I wouldn't fly you to North Dakota just because you asked me. It's too expensive when you're not doing it for fun. (Also, North Dakota is cold and far away.)
- Zak 14y agoSome people enjoy driving in certain situations. Few people get much enjoyment out of guiding a car down the interstate; it's boring, but breaking concentration can be rapidly fatal. No, I won't drive you to North Dakota. Many people enjoy driving a sports car down a mountain road with light/no traffic though. If you wanted me to drive you from Flagstaff to Sedona[0] in a Mazda Miata, I'd do it happily, over and over. I would rather do that myself than let a computer do it, even if the computer can do it safer and faster. [0] https://maps.google.com/maps?q=flagstaff+to+sedona&saddr=flagstaff&daddr=sedona&hl=en&ll=34.998785,-111.694565&spn=0.284612,0.41851&sll=30.34499,-81.683107&sspn=1.199363,1.674042&geocode=FUghGQIdL4VY-SkxJi7a944thzEAs9vOoTwfjg%3BFewRFAIdoqlW-SkNsEL5MqEthzH9jmz6I8VIVQ&t=h&z=12 https://maps.google.com/maps?q=flagstaff+to+sedona&saddr...
- DanBC 14y agoWait, isn't this a public declaration of breaking some law or other? A few years ago I'd be impressed but not worried. Now? I'm impressed and worried.
- missing_cipher 14y agoDepends where he lives and if Google would pursuit it.
- UnoriginalGuy 14y agoHe lives in CA, USA. So could definitely be an issue if Google decided to go after him.
- brian_cloutier 14y agoGoogle has put a lot of effort into calling android an open platform. The amount of bad press and angry developers they'd get for suing _saurik_ for jealbreaking a device that already doesn't have too hot of PR would be incredible.
- buttscicles 14y agoI'm not sure about how the decision making process went when deciding who to give an early preview of glass, but I'd imagine the people responsible knew who Saurik was and what his intentions were.
- jamornh 14y agoI thought all Google I/O 2012 attendees could buy one at one point?
- saurik 14y agoI was loopholed because I "pre-ordered" it at Google I/O. I did not get the impression that I was very carefully chosen. (That said, I doubt they mind that I did this, I'm just saying that I do not find it to be likely that they thought "oh, yeah, saurik, we know him".)
- jacquesm 14y agoIt's quite depressing that such a peripheral would need to be jailbroken in the first place. Computers got to where they are because they were hackable, not because they were locked up.
- joeblau 14y agoIt is hackable, he hacked it.
- JasonFruit 14y agoI think he or she means "hackable by intent", which seems to be a dying category.
- veidr 14y agoBut that is the entire thing that makes Google's phones fundamentally better than most other phones[1]! They are, by design, entirely hackable. If you wish, you can get root on your phone; they explicitly make them this way. You're "allowed" to. No security exploits needed. And, if they are true to their word--and there's no reason to think they won't be--the same will go for their computer-glasses. [1]: EDIT: I mean that they are objectively, indisputably better in this fundamental way (of being expressly hackable by design). I am not saying Google's phones are better in all ways.
- saurik 14y agoWell, when they come out in the end and are easily hackable (they provide stock images, they provide the source code for everything in a way that we can compile, etc.) then that will be great, but as long as I'm having to use exploits to easily get root on the device (which I did) I'm going to say "jailbreak" ;P.
- veidr 14y agoYes, I wouldn't dispute that. I was mainly replying to the notion that hackable devices are a "dying category". Clearly that is something we are gradually losing, in this age of the DMCA and locked-down app stores. But Google is one of the few major smartphone/table companies bucking that trend. Hopefully, this will continue to be the case, although they have been slow sometimes in getting it all sorted out when new hardware comes out...
- smegel 14y agoI wonder if one day it will be mandatory to wear some descendant of this device in order to receive government bulletins, and if the jailbreakers become some underground citizens rebellion against the corporate borg in Google, which ironically still goes by the now-sinister mantra "don't be evil".
- derefr 14y agoI'd be okay with this being mandatory in some sense to our future descendants, after it becomes uniquitous enough that it's only the lone straggler who doesn't have one. Not for government bulletins, though--for instant-vote referrendums :)
- ewwwwwwwww 14y agoYou suck.
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- DEinspanjer 14y agoThere was a fun dystopian future book I read a while back pretty close to this topic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_%28Anderson_novel%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_%28Anderson_novel%29
- Zigurd 14y agoYou have to wonder if face recognition will become regulated in some way. For example, if it becomes OK for police to ID you by face, but not OK for you to know that the policeman talking to you has lots of complaints filed against him.
- dannowatts 14y agosaurik: doing god's work!
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- tomphoolery 14y agoSometimes, I love you saurik. Just this time...try not to capitalize too much on the whole thing ;)
- sturmeh 14y agoExcept it's not called jailbreaking on an Android device.
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- anotherbadlogin 14y ago"pound ifihadglass"? Just say no to douchetags: http://goldmanosi.blogspot.com/2012/02/douchetag.html http://goldmanosi.blogspot.com/2012/02/douchetag.html