I think for the two recent guys that left, they were just burned out on having to carry all the content of a weekly show alone. Now their new podcast is more of

I think for the two recent guys that left, they were just burned out on having to carry all the content of a weekly show alone. Now their new podcast is more of a conversation and they can just BS without much prep. For Gruber, I assume it was just money. Someone else offered him more or an ownership stake that he wasn't going to get from 5x5.