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As an astronomer I hope this does not take off. The threat to job security is not just "perceived". Astronomers are frequently kept in a state of constant job-
by anon_barcode 13y ago
As an astronomer I hope this does not take off.
The threat to job security is not just "perceived". Astronomers are frequently kept in a state of constant job-induced anxiety by the prevalent practice of fighting for 6 month - 2 year "postdocs" for the first 15-20 years of their careers (seriously, go to an astronomical conference, you would not believe the amount of people greying under 35). To "keep" your job (in reality, get another postdoc) you must do two things: author papers and get papers cited.
This practice makes collaboration actually detrimental to a researcher's career unless one of two things happens: 1) they lead the collaboration and get their name as first author 2) the collaboration allows some kind of recompense for the time invested into the collaboration.
For this reason, many collaborations have a period of proprietarity, a time when the collaboration data is available exclusively to the people who have sunk their time into the collaboration. Imagine, if the people behind the Millenium or Aquarius simulations were forced to publish their code as soon as they had run the simulations (this is true for any theorist)-- now these people have spent the past years of their lives, tweaking and perfecting code _for which they get no publications or citations_ and before they can even begin to analyze the easiest results ("low hanging fruit", the simplistic papers that usually go to collaboration members), the simulations are being run and analyzed all over the world. They have gained nothing by their efforts in actually developing the code (our world does not work like industry, we don't get a pat on the back and a raise for being team players).
For theorists, often entire careers revolve around codes that have been developed over the researcher's whole career-- to be forced to hand it over to all the first year PhDs in the world is a tremendous slap in the face.
For me, as an "experimentalist" (read, data-analyst), I also maintain job attractiveness by having sets of code that no one else has. I'm experienced in a variety of pattern finding algorithms, and have even invented a few myself for very specific problems-- and within my little sphere, people know this about me, I'm the person people come to for certain things. I spent years of my life perfecting these, learning about algorithms, learning the intricacies and quirks of the various datasets we use-- if someone wants to take my place in this community as "that guy" then I expect them to devote as much time as I have to learning these techniques inside out and then to do something better than me. I have no desire to pass my code off to a masters student and let him naively plug some dataset into it-- firstly because no one should ever rely on a black box in this field, and secondly because these codes all need to be tweaked to account for the different instruments and data structures being used.
Perhaps if my contract didn't have a built in expiration I would be willing to care-bear-share my fractal search methods and spend my Thursday afternoons showing you how to Savitsky-Golay smoothing works, but as long as I'm out of a job next July, and you're the guy applying for my job, you can keep your filthy hands off my code.
- stargazer-3 13y agoAs a first-year master student in astronomy, I fully agree with you.
- davorak 13y ago> Perhaps if my contract didn't have a built in expiration I would be willing to care-bear-share my fractal search methods and spend my Thursday afternoons showing you how to Savitsky-Golay smoothing works, but as long as I'm out of a job next July, and you're the guy applying for my job, you can keep your filthy hands off my code. This seems to be getting closer to the root of the problem, any insight into why the job market is set up that way?
- anon_barcode 13y agoSeveral reasons. Firstly, it's a boys club up top-- a lot of PhD requirements are build around basically hazing rituals. It's designed to make you "prove" yourself-- instead of remembering the Frats founding members, we memorize moments of inertia and rotation matrices, but it's really the same thing, seeing as how I don't deal with those items on a daily basis at all, and a quick duckduckgo will give you more information than I ever could. Secondly, astronomy and astrophysics is arguably the least essential of the sciences, so our funding shrinks accordingly when economies crash (what do we really make, coffee books?). We don't make quantum cryptography, and we can't levitate objects... although we have some remarkably military grade trajectory maps for all your satellites... Thirdly I think it really is an attempt to make us work well past what any other industry would consider remotely acceptable. For a bit of insight into the situation, check this completely serious correspondence sent to an unnamed faculty which is now famous in the astrophysical community: http://jjcharfman.tumblr.com/post/33151387354/a-motivational-correspondance http://jjcharfman.tumblr.com/post/33151387354/a-motivational... I personally work with a 40 year old doctor, a leader in their field, who has not published a major paper in the last 3 years. They're being deported and are moving back in with their family if they can't get a job in the next month or so after having 2-to-3 3-month "pity" contracts. Of course this is just a hearsay example, not the norm, but it illustrates. Another thing to remember is that we basically cannot have real families-- our jobs frequently require us to change states or countries at the terminus of our postdocs, and our salaries are on the order of entry position BSc coders 50-80k usually depending on skill. The hotshots in the field get 5-year contracts. At age 30 a 5-year contract is pretty much the best you can possibly do.