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Speaking of Pocket, I'm baffled by their lack of (recently upgraded to simply lacking) sharing functionality and full-text search. Passing a Pocket link to som

Speaking of Pocket, I'm baffled by their lack of (recently upgraded to simply lacking) sharing functionality and full-text search. Passing a Pocket link to someone without a Pocket account leads to a sign-up page. If the recipient already has an account or goes to the trouble to sign up, they're redirected to their own queue, not the linked article. If the recipient goes to the trouble to sign up and pocket the same page themselves they will end up successfully accessing the getpocket.com/a/read/XXXXXXXXX URL that they were original sent. Pocket is throwing away potential new users who quit at the sign up page and useful information about how existing users share. Within the last month, they finally added some sharing functionality, but it sends links to the original not the pocket version. Another opportunity to pull new users into a test drive of the product being thrown away. Lack of full-text search makes referencing anything down the road incredibly difficult. I've ended up regularly importing my Pocket queue to historious [1] to achieve this. At this point, the only thing that keeps me using Pocket is the very nice Android app. 1: http://historio.us http://historio.us

w1ntermute 14y ago
> Passing a Pocket link to someone without a Pocket account leads to a sign-up page. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I just tried sharing something from the Pocket Android app and it gave me the original URL in the Gmail message I opened.
- incision 14y ago
  >I'm not sure what you're talking about. That probably has something to do with failing to read what I wrote. I'm talking about a link to the "read later" view. I even described the original URL functionality you're confusing it with. "Within the last month, they finally added some sharing functionality, but it sends links to the original not the pocket version."
  - tomkarlo 14y ago
    Seems like it makes a lot of sense to do this. They don't want to become a de-facto mirror for the content, they want to provide it only to people who are actually their users. I'd rather have that, along with a bias towards sharing the original link, than a lot of sharing of the reflowed content.
    - incision 14y ago
      >They don't want to become a de-facto mirror for the content, they want to provide it only to people who are actually their users. Surely there's a way that could be prevented while retaining the benefit of exposing potential new users to the service? The current sharing feature sends 800 character URLs pointing to email.getpocket.com. I'd think something could be put into and parsed out of that monster string to prevent the mirror scenario. Send the first X clicks to a reflowed version with with a non-invasive sign-up option, send the rest to a sign-up page sans reflow.
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enra 14y ago
We also do full-text search for Pro users, and you can sync with Pocket. http://kippt.com http://kippt.com
- incision 14y ago
  I actually signed up for Kippt when initially searching for a Pocket alternative and there's a lot to like about it. I didn't stick with it or sign up for pro for a couple of reasons. Namely, lack of an app and what I find to be a "cluttered" experience. Perhaps I'm missing something, but if I want to save the page I'm on (I know I can save a link directly with a right-click) to Kippt I hit the extension icon which prompts me for tags, a destination and requires an extra click to actually save. Contrast that with Pocket and historious where it's one click, done. Pocket actually does it best by temporarily presenting me with the option to add tags or go the list without insisting. Now, if I want to search what I've saved on Kippt I head on over to kippt.com and I'm presented with something that (to me) resembles Outlook. I click into a little search field, type my search and hit enter. I wait, get results then click a link. If the link came from Pocket, I get a largely empty page with yet another link to click to reach the actual content. (Links added directly to Kippt for later reading have a summary here, that's fine.) Contrast that with historious. When I want to search what I've saved or imported from Pocket I head to historio.us and instantly it's Google for my stuff. I start typing and hit enter. My results appear immediately, if I want to go straight to source I hit the main link, if I want a reader view I hit mobilize below it, if I want to publish it on the public Google for my stuff at user.historio.us I hit publish. As you can see, relative to that experience, Kippt requires "extra" steps for every common action I use.
  - muzzamike 14y ago
    Kippster, a 3rd party app, has been pretty great for me on iPad. I was an avid Pocket user. And it's great for saving things you want to read later and then just throw away. A lot of these articles/videos I want to read later, then save for reference. With Kippt I can send pages to my Inbox exactly like I did with Pocket. Once I read them, if I want to save them for later, I can move them into any 1 of the categories I've set up. I have about 20 categories ranging from "App Store Articles" to "Analytics Videos" to "General Programming Learning". I can't imagine how I would live without it now.
kylesethgray 14y ago
>Passing a Pocket link to someone without a Pocket account leads to a sign-up page. uhh… No it doesn't
- incision 14y ago
  >uhh… No it doesn't Please read the whole post.

w1ntermute 14y ago

> Passing a Pocket link to someone without a Pocket account leads to a sign-up page. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I just tried sharing something from the Pocket Android app and it gave me the original URL in the Gmail message I opened.

incision 14y ago
>I'm not sure what you're talking about. That probably has something to do with failing to read what I wrote. I'm talking about a link to the "read later" view. I even described the original URL functionality you're confusing it with. "Within the last month, they finally added some sharing functionality, but it sends links to the original not the pocket version."
- tomkarlo 14y ago
  Seems like it makes a lot of sense to do this. They don't want to become a de-facto mirror for the content, they want to provide it only to people who are actually their users. I'd rather have that, along with a bias towards sharing the original link, than a lot of sharing of the reflowed content.
  - incision 14y ago
    >They don't want to become a de-facto mirror for the content, they want to provide it only to people who are actually their users. Surely there's a way that could be prevented while retaining the benefit of exposing potential new users to the service? The current sharing feature sends 800 character URLs pointing to email.getpocket.com. I'd think something could be put into and parsed out of that monster string to prevent the mirror scenario. Send the first X clicks to a reflowed version with with a non-invasive sign-up option, send the rest to a sign-up page sans reflow.
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enra 14y ago

We also do full-text search for Pro users, and you can sync with Pocket. http://kippt.com http://kippt.com

incision 14y ago
I actually signed up for Kippt when initially searching for a Pocket alternative and there's a lot to like about it. I didn't stick with it or sign up for pro for a couple of reasons. Namely, lack of an app and what I find to be a "cluttered" experience. Perhaps I'm missing something, but if I want to save the page I'm on (I know I can save a link directly with a right-click) to Kippt I hit the extension icon which prompts me for tags, a destination and requires an extra click to actually save. Contrast that with Pocket and historious where it's one click, done. Pocket actually does it best by temporarily presenting me with the option to add tags or go the list without insisting. Now, if I want to search what I've saved on Kippt I head on over to kippt.com and I'm presented with something that (to me) resembles Outlook. I click into a little search field, type my search and hit enter. I wait, get results then click a link. If the link came from Pocket, I get a largely empty page with yet another link to click to reach the actual content. (Links added directly to Kippt for later reading have a summary here, that's fine.) Contrast that with historious. When I want to search what I've saved or imported from Pocket I head to historio.us and instantly it's Google for my stuff. I start typing and hit enter. My results appear immediately, if I want to go straight to source I hit the main link, if I want a reader view I hit mobilize below it, if I want to publish it on the public Google for my stuff at user.historio.us I hit publish. As you can see, relative to that experience, Kippt requires "extra" steps for every common action I use.
- muzzamike 14y ago
  Kippster, a 3rd party app, has been pretty great for me on iPad. I was an avid Pocket user. And it's great for saving things you want to read later and then just throw away. A lot of these articles/videos I want to read later, then save for reference. With Kippt I can send pages to my Inbox exactly like I did with Pocket. Once I read them, if I want to save them for later, I can move them into any 1 of the categories I've set up. I have about 20 categories ranging from "App Store Articles" to "Analytics Videos" to "General Programming Learning". I can't imagine how I would live without it now.

kylesethgray 14y ago

>Passing a Pocket link to someone without a Pocket account leads to a sign-up page. uhh… No it doesn't

incision 14y ago
>uhh… No it doesn't Please read the whole post.