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Nö One says anything about it being necessary, but if you think that going to one of the "elite" universities doesn't help you tremendously with your chances of

Nö One says anything about it being necessary, but if you think that going to one of the "elite" universities doesn't help you tremendously with your chances of being higher up on your career ladder, then this is really not worth discussing. In that light, you don't need anything, not a college degree, not a high school degree, because you will always be able to achieve success ...

mindcrime 13y ago
but if you think that going to one of the "elite" universities doesn't help you tremendously with your chances of being higher up on your career ladder Depends on how exactly you define "elite", "tremendously" and "career ladder". Anyway, I'm not arguing that they don't help, I'm arguing that the extent of the difference they make is very possibly overstated, especially for people whose aspirations don't include "being President of the USA" or "being CEO of an S&P 500 company". In that light, you don't need anything, not a college degree, not a high school degree, because you will always be able to achieve success Not sure if that was meant to be sarcasm or mean to be taken literally, but I actually believe that very strongly. There are lots of variables that affect what happens to a person in life, of which "what university you attend" or "did you attend university at all" are just two. Personally, I believe determination, ambition, perseverance, work ethic, attitude, etc., matter more than either of those factors.
- nchuhoai 13y ago
  I mean i agree that there are many factors at work, but im not sure whether i could comfortably say for example that "what university you attend" is a worse factor (correlation wise) than work ethic/determination. Though I guess that is party because you can't really measure those other factors you mentioned.

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Nö One says anything about it being necessary, but if you think that going to one of the "elite" universities doesn't help you tremendously with your chances of

by nchuhoai 13y ago

mindcrime 13y ago
but if you think that going to one of the "elite" universities doesn't help you tremendously with your chances of being higher up on your career ladder Depends on how exactly you define "elite", "tremendously" and "career ladder". Anyway, I'm not arguing that they don't help, I'm arguing that the extent of the difference they make is very possibly overstated, especially for people whose aspirations don't include "being President of the USA" or "being CEO of an S&P 500 company". In that light, you don't need anything, not a college degree, not a high school degree, because you will always be able to achieve success Not sure if that was meant to be sarcasm or mean to be taken literally, but I actually believe that very strongly. There are lots of variables that affect what happens to a person in life, of which "what university you attend" or "did you attend university at all" are just two. Personally, I believe determination, ambition, perseverance, work ethic, attitude, etc., matter more than either of those factors.
- nchuhoai 13y ago
  I mean i agree that there are many factors at work, but im not sure whether i could comfortably say for example that "what university you attend" is a worse factor (correlation wise) than work ethic/determination. Though I guess that is party because you can't really measure those other factors you mentioned.