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"You're caught up in your story:" I just know what the heck I'm talking about. As I wrote in this thread over and over, it's US citizens, via gifts or taxes,
by graycat 14y ago
"You're caught up in your story:"
I just know what the heck I'm talking
about.
As I wrote in this thread over and over,
it's US citizens, via gifts or taxes, e.g.,
taxes from Joe and Mary, that is paying for
most of any education in a well known US
college or university. So, in particular,
there's no way a foreigner is paying his/her
way; the foreigner is getting an education
mostly paid for by US citizens.
For the graduate student who gets a stipend
for work grading papers or working
in a lab for a prof, that's mostly just
make work. I've done it as a grad student,
and I've hired it as a prof. I will say
that when I was teaching calculus at a
Big Ten school as a grad student I was
earning my keep.
The NSF wrote into its grant
contracts that students must be supported
as a way to get more STEM grad students,
not because the NSF wanted those students
to contribute to 'research' but because the
NSF economists did a calculation to see how
to increase STEM graduate degree labor
in the US labor market.
So, sure stockholders of United Technologies,
GE, Microsoft, Cisco, Intel, etc. like the idea
of the NSF generating more STEM Master's
degrees, but Joe and Mary can see that their
tax money is not getting their children
through college but is getting foreign students
through grad school to compete with their
children should they manage to get through
grad school. So Joe and Mary have a right
to feel ripped off.
"Not a handout (in part) to foreigners."
No, that basically is what is going on,
and because the NSF insists so, and so
insists because the NSF wants, as I explained,
to participate in 'US national manpower management',
i.e., flood the US with cheap labor,
in STEM fields and not just research.
Mostly it is just not in the economic
interest of any country to be giving away
high end education to foreigners.