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The world has changed. There are a ton of well-off families in China and India, and most foreign students pay much higher tuition than Americans at this point (

The world has changed. There are a ton of well-off families in China and India, and most foreign students pay much higher tuition than Americans at this point (out-of-state tuition). This makes for a non-trivial contribution to most university budgets. The higher cost of tuition for these students is another reason for the bias towards STEM majors.

graycat 14y ago
"This makes for a non-trivial contribution to most university budgets." Just what is it about paying for 1/3rd of the total cost instead of the full cost you don't get? Again, yet again, once more, just for you, again, over again, students don't pay for the full cost of a college or university education in the US; not US students, not foreign students, with only very rare exceptions not foreign students of wealthy families and, instead, US citizens through gifts or taxes pay for 2/3rds or more. E.g., Mike Bloomberg gave $100 million to Johns Hopkins. One of the founders of QUALCOMM just gave $133 million to the Cornell technical university to be built on Roosevelt Island. As I recall, there's a Gates building at Stanford, from Bill and Melinda Gates. It goes on and on. When a foreign student gets an education in the US, their education is being paid for mostly by US citizens, via gifts or taxes. This point is tough to understand? Sure, there are now a few wealthy families in China and India. But we're talking about flooding the US with cheap labor via H1Bs and US university educations, and the students of the wealthy families are at most only a tiny fraction of that. As I explained, one reason foreign students get graduate educations in US research universities is that the US NSF wrote into research grants that students must be supported on the grants and the students can come for foreign countries -- commonly not England, France, or Germany but India and Taiwan. I can fully understand that with rare exceptions a foreign student who pays for some or all of tuition, fees, books, room, board, etc. at a US college or university believes that they are paying a lot, and they are, but they still are not paying nearly the full cost, and US citizens are making up the difference. This is difficult to understand?

graycat 14y ago

"This makes for a non-trivial contribution to most university budgets." Just what is it about paying for 1/3rd of the total cost instead of the full cost you don't get? Again, yet again, once more, just for you, again, over again, students don't pay for the full cost of a college or university education in the US; not US students, not foreign students, with only very rare exceptions not foreign students of wealthy families and, instead, US citizens through gifts or taxes pay for 2/3rds or more. E.g., Mike Bloomberg gave $100 million to Johns Hopkins. One of the founders of QUALCOMM just gave $133 million to the Cornell technical university to be built on Roosevelt Island. As I recall, there's a Gates building at Stanford, from Bill and Melinda Gates. It goes on and on. When a foreign student gets an education in the US, their education is being paid for mostly by US citizens, via gifts or taxes. This point is tough to understand? Sure, there are now a few wealthy families in China and India. But we're talking about flooding the US with cheap labor via H1Bs and US university educations, and the students of the wealthy families are at most only a tiny fraction of that. As I explained, one reason foreign students get graduate educations in US research universities is that the US NSF wrote into research grants that students must be supported on the grants and the students can come for foreign countries -- commonly not England, France, or Germany but India and Taiwan. I can fully understand that with rare exceptions a foreign student who pays for some or all of tuition, fees, books, room, board, etc. at a US college or university believes that they are paying a lot, and they are, but they still are not paying nearly the full cost, and US citizens are making up the difference. This is difficult to understand?