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That does not match with my experience, especially considering that the majority of scholarships are need based. Especially at top universities, where merit sch

That does not match with my experience, especially considering that the majority of scholarships are need based. Especially at top universities, where merit scholarships are vanishingly rare (except at top LACs - liberal arts colleges). edit: changed colloquial use of word.

Crake 14y ago
Unfortunately, your experience does not match reality, wther it "jives" with it or not. Blithely ignoring the actual situation is, of course, almost guaranteed to ensure that poor but smart people will continue to be priced out of college educations in the US.
- argonaut 14y ago
  You see, now your arguments are just devolving into non sequiturs. Do you have any evidence to back up your claims? The Ivy Leagues, for example, have a strict policy of not giving out merit scholarships or even athletic scholarships. That is a fact.
  - Crake 14y ago
    "Over all, the report found, published college tuition and fees increased 439 percent from 1982 to 2007 while median family income rose 147 percent. Student borrowing has more than doubled in the last decade, and students from lower-income families, on average, get smaller grants from the colleges they attend than students from more affluent families." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/education/03college.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/education/03college.html "While 79% of students born into the top income quartile in the U.S. obtain bachelor’s degrees, only 11% of students from bottom-quartile families graduate from four-year universities, according to Postsecondary Education Opportunity." http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/05/02/poor-students-are-the-real-victims-of-college-discrimination/2/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/05/02/poor-stu... Anyway, if 1 trillion dollars in student loan debt doesn't sound like a problem to you, there's probably not much to be gained from continuing the discussion. People like you have no idea what it's like to live below the poverty line.

Crake 14y ago

Unfortunately, your experience does not match reality, wther it "jives" with it or not. Blithely ignoring the actual situation is, of course, almost guaranteed to ensure that poor but smart people will continue to be priced out of college educations in the US.

argonaut 14y ago
You see, now your arguments are just devolving into non sequiturs. Do you have any evidence to back up your claims? The Ivy Leagues, for example, have a strict policy of not giving out merit scholarships or even athletic scholarships. That is a fact.
- Crake 14y ago
  "Over all, the report found, published college tuition and fees increased 439 percent from 1982 to 2007 while median family income rose 147 percent. Student borrowing has more than doubled in the last decade, and students from lower-income families, on average, get smaller grants from the colleges they attend than students from more affluent families." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/education/03college.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/education/03college.html "While 79% of students born into the top income quartile in the U.S. obtain bachelor’s degrees, only 11% of students from bottom-quartile families graduate from four-year universities, according to Postsecondary Education Opportunity." http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/05/02/poor-students-are-the-real-victims-of-college-discrimination/2/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/05/02/poor-stu... Anyway, if 1 trillion dollars in student loan debt doesn't sound like a problem to you, there's probably not much to be gained from continuing the discussion. People like you have no idea what it's like to live below the poverty line.