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The government really tries to cripple you following any sort of felony. Isn't going to prison and not doing the things you normally do, for any extended amount
by bennyg 14y ago
The government really tries to cripple you following any sort of felony. Isn't going to prison and not doing the things you normally do, for any extended amount of time, enough punishment as it is? Isn't the whole thing supposed to be about rehabilitation for tendencies that hurt society and the fostering of tendencies that would help it? I'm not saying prisons, or the whole system, are rigged to perpetuate more crime, but it feels like you'd have to do some sort of illegal activity to stay afloat after losing everything then constantly getting held under water after release so as not being able to make a rent payment.
- abstractbill 14y agoYes, absolutely. After we're "done" fixing gay rights (because it's hard to get everyone behind more than one thing at a time), there's a very strong case that we need to fix felons' rights.
- sophacles 14y agoI believe that with the current "make it legal" happenings for marijuana, and the fact that huge amounts of people are forever fucked because of posession felonies, the two things should be more inter-twined than they currently are. As such, I would argue that laying the groundwork for this sort thing should be (and arguably is) happening now, while the gay rights stuff is center-stage.
- bennyg 14y agoExactly. My brother may or may not be dealing with possession charges that would have warranted nothing more than a ticket if they happened ~60 miles to the West.
- tbrownaw 14y agoI'm not saying prisons, or the whole system, are rigged to perpetuate more crime, but it feels like you'd have to do some sort of illegal activity to stay afloat after losing everything then constantly getting held under water after release so as not being able to make a rent payment. Bad things don't happen to good people, and good people don't do bad things or associate with bad people. If someone gets arrested or convicted for doing something bad, then you associating with them must mean that either (1) you are also a bad person, or (2) bad things do in fact happen to good people, and could happen to you. This would suggest that a way to fix things would be to publicize that the system has a disturbingly high error rate (bad things do in fact happen to good people) and the damage from that needs to be reduced. Another way would be to get rid of the belief that (getting caught) doing one bad thing makes you forever a bad person, but that would require working against how intolerance seems to feed on itself...
- anon808 14y ago"Bad things don't happen to good people, and good people don't do bad things or associate with bad people." Evidence please . . . what a one-dimensional statement. It turns out life isn't binary.
- randallsquared 14y agoThat's part of his point, yes.
- bilbo0s 14y ago"...Bad things don't happen to good people..." I HAVE to say this after what I've seen in my life. (I've spent a significant portion of it researching cancer.) Bad things DO HAPPEN to good people.
- eropple 14y agoMight want to read it again with tongue in cheek.
- ryguytilidie 14y ago"Bad things don't happen to good people, and good people don't do bad things or associate with bad people." I really can't believe people can actually go through life and think this is a remotely reasonable statement. I'm not sure there are many statements in existence that I could disagree with more strongly...