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This makes no sense. This kind of sloppy thinking on a topic like this does nothing to further the discussion.

newnewnew 14y ago
Unfortunately "sloppy thinking" pretty accurately describes the liberal orthodoxy that runs elite colleges.
Crake 14y ago
It makes perfect sense. We've traded one group that it is socially and politically ok to hate based on their skin color in for another. I guess the idea that we should stop with race based discrimination altogether is too novel yet. So long as this is the case, the cycle will continue to repeat.
- tsotha 14y ago
  Jerry Pournelle is fond of saying something to the effect of "Back in the '60s people thought I was a radical because I said we shouldn't discriminate based on skin color. Today people think I'm a radical because... I say we shouldn't discriminate based on skin color."
  - Crake 14y ago
    I'd have been a radical then and I'm apparently a radical now. Sigh.
- hackinthebochs 14y ago
  The topic of Affirmative Action, or race- conscious admissions in general has nothing to do with entitlement. Conflating the two is the sloppy thinking I'm referring to. >It makes perfect sense. We've traded one group that it is socially and politically ok to hate based on their skin color in for another. Let's not conflate the hatred leveled on Blacks which kept them out of higher education to not wanting your school full of bookworms (generalization, but I'm just making a point). This is just more sloppy thinking from you folks.
  - tsotha 14y ago
    >Let's not conflate the hatred leveled on Blacks which kept them out of higher education to not wanting your school full of bookworms... That's just a rationalization.
tsotha 14y ago
That's not sloppy thinking at all. It's just straightforward logic. You're not even making an attempt to argue the point. Because you can't.
- hackinthebochs 14y ago
  The topic of Affirmative Action, or race- conscious admissions in general has nothing to do with entitlement. Conflating the two is the sloppy thinking I'm referring to.

Unfortunately "sloppy thinking" pretty accurately describes the liberal orthodoxy that runs elite colleges.

Crake 14y ago

It makes perfect sense. We've traded one group that it is socially and politically ok to hate based on their skin color in for another. I guess the idea that we should stop with race based discrimination altogether is too novel yet. So long as this is the case, the cycle will continue to repeat.

tsotha 14y ago
Jerry Pournelle is fond of saying something to the effect of "Back in the '60s people thought I was a radical because I said we shouldn't discriminate based on skin color. Today people think I'm a radical because... I say we shouldn't discriminate based on skin color."
- Crake 14y ago
  I'd have been a radical then and I'm apparently a radical now. Sigh.
hackinthebochs 14y ago
The topic of Affirmative Action, or race- conscious admissions in general has nothing to do with entitlement. Conflating the two is the sloppy thinking I'm referring to. >It makes perfect sense. We've traded one group that it is socially and politically ok to hate based on their skin color in for another. Let's not conflate the hatred leveled on Blacks which kept them out of higher education to not wanting your school full of bookworms (generalization, but I'm just making a point). This is just more sloppy thinking from you folks.
- tsotha 14y ago
  >Let's not conflate the hatred leveled on Blacks which kept them out of higher education to not wanting your school full of bookworms... That's just a rationalization.

tsotha 14y ago

That's not sloppy thinking at all. It's just straightforward logic. You're not even making an attempt to argue the point. Because you can't.

hackinthebochs 14y ago
The topic of Affirmative Action, or race- conscious admissions in general has nothing to do with entitlement. Conflating the two is the sloppy thinking I'm referring to.