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“Harvard College welcomes talented students from all backgrounds, including Asian-Americans… The admissions committee does not use quotas of any kind.” ....but
by OGinparadise 13y ago
“Harvard College welcomes talented students from all backgrounds, including Asian-Americans… The admissions committee does not use quotas of any kind.”
....but we do value diversity :)
and that's the same thing. It's unfair to Asians but then no one is entitled to being accepted at school A or B, and more than SAT scores and GPA should be at play.
- tsotha 13y ago>It's unfair to Asians but then no one is entitled to being accepted at school A or B... Uh huh. Substitute "Blacks" for "Asians" and somehow suddenly it's no longer okay.
- hackinthebochs 13y agoThis makes no sense. This kind of sloppy thinking on a topic like this does nothing to further the discussion.
- newnewnew 13y agoUnfortunately "sloppy thinking" pretty accurately describes the liberal orthodoxy that runs elite colleges.
- Crake 13y agoIt makes perfect sense. We've traded one group that it is socially and politically ok to hate based on their skin color in for another. I guess the idea that we should stop with race based discrimination altogether is too novel yet. So long as this is the case, the cycle will continue to repeat.
- tsotha 13y agoJerry Pournelle is fond of saying something to the effect of "Back in the '60s people thought I was a radical because I said we shouldn't discriminate based on skin color. Today people think I'm a radical because... I say we shouldn't discriminate based on skin color."
- Crake 13y agoI'd have been a radical then and I'm apparently a radical now. Sigh.
- hackinthebochs 13y agoThe topic of Affirmative Action, or race- conscious admissions in general has nothing to do with entitlement. Conflating the two is the sloppy thinking I'm referring to. >It makes perfect sense. We've traded one group that it is socially and politically ok to hate based on their skin color in for another. Let's not conflate the hatred leveled on Blacks which kept them out of higher education to not wanting your school full of bookworms (generalization, but I'm just making a point). This is just more sloppy thinking from you folks.
- tsotha 13y ago>Let's not conflate the hatred leveled on Blacks which kept them out of higher education to not wanting your school full of bookworms... That's just a rationalization.
- tsotha 13y agoThat's not sloppy thinking at all. It's just straightforward logic. You're not even making an attempt to argue the point. Because you can't.
- hackinthebochs 13y agoThe topic of Affirmative Action, or race- conscious admissions in general has nothing to do with entitlement. Conflating the two is the sloppy thinking I'm referring to.
- OGinparadise 13y agoHistory and current situation makes the comparison very weak. If 30% of application at Harvard were from black students with perfect GPAs and SAT scores, people wouldn't mind a bit of "racism," or Harvard letting in a few other races with lesser scores.