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WWDC 2013 – June 10-14
- playhard 13y agoWhat is their ticket cancellation policy?
- supercoder 13y agoNon refundable, non transferrable AFAIK.
- playhard 13y agoThanks
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- uptown 13y agoTickets go on sale tomorrow at 10am PDT. Nice to see they learned from last year's timing.
- laveur 13y agoAgreed... Last year the company paid for my ticket this year I don't think the new place I am working can afford it. Hard to decide if I should get a ticket anyways.
- joeconway 13y agoSame. I'm wondering how much benefit there is to be gained by going as the videos are being posted during the conference this year.
- dzlobin 13y agoWhile the videos are available online, what are the odds you will actually watch all of them? Especially within one week? I'd venture a guess that most of the benefit is derived from the fact that you get to focus for the entire week on taking all of this in, rather than fitting in the videos around your work/family life/etc. That, and the labs and other in-person events that won't be recorded.
- supercoder 13y agoYou certainly don't get the chance to watch all the sessions while you're actually there due to the fact they all overlap. There's little advantage between those who did / didn't go to WWDC in respect to the sessions. The access to engineers and networking with other developers etc is really the main reason for dropping 1500.
- dzlobin 13y agoOh for sure, I simply meant you get to focus your efforts on learning/networking/etc full-time for a week which is rare for most of us working folks.
- tambourine_man 13y agoBeing able to ask something to an engineer. Those folks don't have a public email. And meeting people, having a good time, etc.
- eddieroger 13y agoI felt the same way, but it's true - the intangibles you get from being there are what make it worth while. Being able to talk to the engineers and attend open labs is invaluable, and not available outside of WWDC to most people.
- threeseed 13y agoIf you are going to WWDC to just watch the lectures then you are missing the point. The point is to have Apple engineers look at your code, ask questions of the presenters, give feedback to Apple execs, network with fellow developers, attend the various BOFs etc.
- supercoder 13y agoYeah, that part has thankfully been well organised.
- maguay 13y agoSo, what do you make of the new logo, beyond a new typeface and flat, stacked colors in a vaguely rounded square shape?
- supercoder 13y agoSuggests an iWatch at $199 released July 24th, an Apple TV (two sizes) at $699 later in the year and a brand new Mac Pro. Oh and completely flat design of iOS.
- BillySquid 13y agoSomething about AppleTV
- maguay 13y agoReally? Perhaps so, but seems a stretch to me. When's the last time anyone bought a square TV?
- corresation 13y agoIt is shaped like the dimensions of the current AppleTV product.
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- threeseed 13y agoThe most interesting part of WWDC is going to be seeing whether the SDKs for iOS and OSX unify. If developers can have one code base and deploy to all the Apple products (AppleTV, Mac, iPad, iPhone) it could be a real game changer for the whole industry i.e. the first multi-device platform war. I assume MS is thinking the same way (XBox, Windows, Windows Phone) with their recent moves as well as Ubuntu.
- e1ven 13y agoFor application logic, I agree that unification is key, but for UI/display code, this would be a disaster. MS/Win8 has shown how frustrated people get when you try to force a common UI - It's been generally regarded as a clusterfuck. Instead, decouple your display code from your app logic, and build related, but distinct displays for each application.
- threeseed 13y agoSure. You could have a scaleable/responsive UI, separate layouts for each platform i.e. xibs or completely separate interfaces. But you would still need that common SDK. It looks that everyone is working to that goal. But no one is sure yet.
- danpalmer 13y agoI'm not sure it would be a disaster. If it's implemented in the same way as universal iOS apps are currently done, with separate NIBs for each platform, and if the main UI components are merged (i.e. UIButton and NSButton) then I can imagine UI development on multi-platform apps being quite easy to do, and easy to to well also.
- ceeK 13y agoIt's nice that Apple offer scholarships for students wishing to attend, but it's unfortunate that they don't cover travel expenses. I would really like to apply to attend, but living in the UK and not having enough funds to travel such a large distance is preventing me. Guess I'll have to wait!
- orta 13y agoI went in 2007 as a (UK) Student and I'd really recommend trying to find a way to do it. It becomes prohibitory expensive once you're not a student.
- ceeK 13y agoGood point. I may apply and consider funding the trip if I do get the chance to go. Student overdraft might have to take a hit.
- prawks 13y agoAgreed, it was an amazing experience for me in 2011, and I'd love to go back but really cannot afford both the ticket and travel/lodging now. Apply and worry more about funding your travel once you get accepted.
- danpalmer 13y agoI was thinking of applying, but you have to apply by creating an app to show off your skills. Well that's so open ended, do I put in 1 hour or 10 hours? I really can't afford to put in much time with exams and coursework, so is it worth putting any effort in at all? Apple do this for at least some of their internships as well. I think it's a shame because I suspect it puts many students off from applying.
- ceeK 13y agoI noticed this just recently. It's a shame really, they could have held the "competition" earlier in the year and given people more of a chance. People won't want to put the time in given how close it is to exam season.
- gdubs 13y agoWell, the rule of needing to have a dev account prior to this morning's announcement may help some of us get tickets, but it's gonna be a little nuts. I like the idea that was floated on twitter: give us a simple coding quiz. A 'Captcha' for Objective-C developers. Adding to that, make the test graded. The better you do, the bigger the pool of available tickets for your percentile.
- ebbv 13y agoExcept that the answer(s) would quickly get spread around over social media and the quiz would lose all meaning.
- softbuilder 13y agoNo, I like the general idea. Especially if not everyone gets the same questions. Given the demand vs. scarcity, there'd be enough lag in the dispersal and consumption of answers that most of the tickets would be obtained by the intended audience. Now we can talk about who that "intended audience" is. Certainly there are some people who belong at WWDC that don't do Objective-C?
- ebbv 13y agoI addressed the different questions issue with "answer(s)". But I guess I need to spell it out for you. The whole purpose of the quiz is to slow down how quickly the tickets sell, thus giving "real developers" a pool reserved for them based on them having knowledge the average person does not have. This reservation method would be circumvented in a matter of minutes by people collecting all the correct answers on social media. Additionally it's pretty reasonable that anyone who wants to come who doesn't themselves know Objective-C probably has a friend who can answer the questions for them in their contacts. This is an obvious idea which would not work enough better than the current free for all to be worth the effort. That was my point with my one line response, and I thought it was pretty clear originally. The original commenter addressed your concern about intended audience by saying there would be different tiers of tickets available. But again, this is moot because the whole idea is too flawed to be worthwhile.
- BigBalli 13y ago2 weeks in 2010 (my first time) 2 days in 2011 2 hours in 2012 let's break the record and make it 2min in 2013 :)
- pseudometa 13y agoThe corner radius of the logo closely matches that of the current Apple TV product. Perhaps an Apple TV SDK will be announced.
- fnayr 13y agoGreat now all of us that were prepared with notifications this time cause we were burned last year are going to probably miss out again.
- kunai 13y agoThe logo looks awful and very un-Apple-like.
- dannowatts 13y agoready and primed to purchase my ticket very soon!
- mayoff 13y agoSold out in three minutes.