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I'm sorry, are you seriously comparing Elise Andrew with Shakespeare? "Picking the right words and phrases and putting them in the right order" is not even in

by dvt 14y ago

I'm sorry, are you seriously comparing Elise Andrew with Shakespeare? "Picking the right words and phrases and putting them in the right order" is not even in the same plane of existence as "looking at a picture and deciding if it's remotely funny or interesting."

scotty79 14y ago
Nope. Not seriously. I just feel that belittling her work on finding the right content is very wrong. More serious analogy would be photography. How you do make good photos? Do you create them? No. You just make hundreds of photos (adhering to some technical limitations) and the you pick and crop the right ones from all the photos you made. That's what Bresson did. Picking content is the creative part. The rest is just pointing the camera, turning the knobs and pushing the button. On the internet artists create respective images. But she's also the artist who picks and crops creating her feed which many people apreciate the value of.
- dvt 14y ago
  Bresson was a pioneer of the French New Wave. Again, the comparison is just completely off-base, I'm afraid. What Andrews is doing is just plain theft. (Especially given the fact that she's making money off of IFLS.)
  - scotty79 14y ago
    I'm not comparing her to Bresson. I'm comparing her to a photographer. Bresson is just an example. My friend who photographs does exactly the same. I just invoked Bresson to show that even masters in the field do that. Also it's a keyword for google so you can see what his creative process consisted of. You just completely missed my point that picking content and reframing it is valuable creative activity. Theft would be to resell those images as stock photos. Besides seems your broad definitions of theft would classify half on the internet as such. That's not a very pleasent view of the biggest cultural invention since printing press.
    - stan_rogers 14y ago
      If you truly believe that photography is nothing more than framing, then you have a very limited understanding of the medium. Given the same camera, same subject and same point of view (let's take a still life setup and a camera with a prime lens anchored firmly to a locked studio camera stand) I can make any number of completely different photographs that convey very different meanings and emotions. And that's before making any darkroom/post-processing decisions.
      - scotty79 14y ago
        Yes you can intentionally take different photos of the same thing by varying lightning. You may even learn what type of lightning invokes what emotions in your viewers. I'm just saying thats not how photography is usually done. You set up the set, the lightning and the camera to the best of your knowledge but you don't take one picture. You take loads of them varying your setup slightly and then you pick the right ones. Of course photography is very varied field and there are guys who get their highs from taking one picture with shoebox but they are not that common among photographers.
    - markdown 14y ago
      But she didn't have to pick anything. As I mentioned higher up, it's just picked off the top science subreddits and could be automated. Everything she posts has already been proven to be interesting to anyone interested in science.

by dvt 14y ago

scotty79 14y ago

Nope. Not seriously. I just feel that belittling her work on finding the right content is very wrong. More serious analogy would be photography. How you do make good photos? Do you create them? No. You just make hundreds of photos (adhering to some technical limitations) and the you pick and crop the right ones from all the photos you made. That's what Bresson did. Picking content is the creative part. The rest is just pointing the camera, turning the knobs and pushing the button. On the internet artists create respective images. But she's also the artist who picks and crops creating her feed which many people apreciate the value of.

dvt 14y ago
Bresson was a pioneer of the French New Wave. Again, the comparison is just completely off-base, I'm afraid. What Andrews is doing is just plain theft. (Especially given the fact that she's making money off of IFLS.)
- scotty79 14y ago
  I'm not comparing her to Bresson. I'm comparing her to a photographer. Bresson is just an example. My friend who photographs does exactly the same. I just invoked Bresson to show that even masters in the field do that. Also it's a keyword for google so you can see what his creative process consisted of. You just completely missed my point that picking content and reframing it is valuable creative activity. Theft would be to resell those images as stock photos. Besides seems your broad definitions of theft would classify half on the internet as such. That's not a very pleasent view of the biggest cultural invention since printing press.
  - stan_rogers 14y ago
    If you truly believe that photography is nothing more than framing, then you have a very limited understanding of the medium. Given the same camera, same subject and same point of view (let's take a still life setup and a camera with a prime lens anchored firmly to a locked studio camera stand) I can make any number of completely different photographs that convey very different meanings and emotions. And that's before making any darkroom/post-processing decisions.
    - scotty79 14y ago
      Yes you can intentionally take different photos of the same thing by varying lightning. You may even learn what type of lightning invokes what emotions in your viewers. I'm just saying thats not how photography is usually done. You set up the set, the lightning and the camera to the best of your knowledge but you don't take one picture. You take loads of them varying your setup slightly and then you pick the right ones. Of course photography is very varied field and there are guys who get their highs from taking one picture with shoebox but they are not that common among photographers.
  - markdown 14y ago
    But she didn't have to pick anything. As I mentioned higher up, it's just picked off the top science subreddits and could be automated. Everything she posts has already been proven to be interesting to anyone interested in science.