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What's the solution? Forking html?

Millennium 14y ago
The solution is waiting it out. They caved on music; they will cave here too. All that is required is patience: something that is admittedly rare in the tech world, but it works.
- mlinksva 14y ago
  Not at all clear to me that waiting it out is a winning strategy. There is no deterministic path for other media to follow music away from DRM, and indeed there is a threat that a faux-standard as proposed will mean that DRM becomes the expectation and demand of/by record companies, again.
- nemothekid 14y ago
  I wouldn't call it "caving" in on music. In a large part Apple effectively blind sided them, I'm sure if given another chance, the RIAA would never let iTunes exist.
mlinksva 14y ago
Short term, the solution is to convince W3C that moving forward will be an embarrassing disaster, nevermind what some of its for-profit members want. This has been accomplished before, in particular ~2001 when many wanted W3C to have a RAND (ie fee required OK) patent policy, but they were embarrassed into finally doing the right thing, ie mandating RF (royalty free) patent licensing by participants in W3C standards. Long term, help free culture become dominant. The post says "The Web doesn’t need big media; big media needs the Web" which is true, but web companies do fear and/or hope for an advantage over competitors by doing deals with big media, including deals selling out The Web writ large.
- ndesaulniers 14y ago
  I wonder which ones sold out already? http://www.microsoft.com/playready/ http://www.microsoft.com/playready/ https://tools.google.com/dlpage/widevine https://tools.google.com/dlpage/widevine Bitches.
skylan_q 14y ago
FWIW, I'd chip in my time for this.
PeterisP 14y ago
As we well know from web history, the standards aren't mandatory - if a part of the W3C standard is broken by design, then the next step is to lobby the major browser makers to ensure that in practice the implemented de-facto standard does not include these DRM terms.

The solution is waiting it out. They caved on music; they will cave here too. All that is required is patience: something that is admittedly rare in the tech world, but it works.

mlinksva 14y ago
Not at all clear to me that waiting it out is a winning strategy. There is no deterministic path for other media to follow music away from DRM, and indeed there is a threat that a faux-standard as proposed will mean that DRM becomes the expectation and demand of/by record companies, again.
nemothekid 14y ago
I wouldn't call it "caving" in on music. In a large part Apple effectively blind sided them, I'm sure if given another chance, the RIAA would never let iTunes exist.

mlinksva 14y ago

Short term, the solution is to convince W3C that moving forward will be an embarrassing disaster, nevermind what some of its for-profit members want. This has been accomplished before, in particular ~2001 when many wanted W3C to have a RAND (ie fee required OK) patent policy, but they were embarrassed into finally doing the right thing, ie mandating RF (royalty free) patent licensing by participants in W3C standards. Long term, help free culture become dominant. The post says "The Web doesn’t need big media; big media needs the Web" which is true, but web companies do fear and/or hope for an advantage over competitors by doing deals with big media, including deals selling out The Web writ large.

ndesaulniers 14y ago
I wonder which ones sold out already? http://www.microsoft.com/playready/ http://www.microsoft.com/playready/ https://tools.google.com/dlpage/widevine https://tools.google.com/dlpage/widevine Bitches.

skylan_q 14y ago

FWIW, I'd chip in my time for this.

PeterisP 14y ago

As we well know from web history, the standards aren't mandatory - if a part of the W3C standard is broken by design, then the next step is to lobby the major browser makers to ensure that in practice the implemented de-facto standard does not include these DRM terms.