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Strange. I have not seen one positive review of this post and yet it made it to the top 5 on the HN homepage. Does that seem suspicious to anyone else? Edit: u

Strange. I have not seen one positive review of this post and yet it made it to the top 5 on the HN homepage. Does that seem suspicious to anyone else? Edit: up to #3 now. Who's upvoting this if everyone commenting is critical of it?

coderdude 14y ago
Most people who comment have something critical to say. Most people who up-vote don't have something critical to say and so they don't comment. I up-voted the submission and hate mailto links. You can't really judge the landscape here based on a few comments.
- MichaelApproved 14y ago
  I'd agree with you if most comments were critical and some were positive but were zero positive reviews. Also, often I see people shoot off one liner comments praising a website. So it's easy for people to praise when they like a post.
  - coderdude 14y ago
    Indeed, I could be wrong. I think this service has a lot of potential and his site looks fantastic. He might go on to save a lot of people from headaches. Particularly, non-coders. He even has the free/paid issue worked out that so many others simply ignore until later. I was just too lazy to say anything.
    - MichaelApproved 14y ago
      "Indeed, I could be wrong." I might be the one who was wrong. As a programmer, this seems like a small solution that's already been solved with wufoo, contact forms 7 and the like but it's number 1 on HN so, even if the votes were faked (which was my initial suspicion), it looks like many people appreciate the product or want to discuss it. "Particularly, non-coders." Maybe as a programmer, my bias of how simple this solution is and how it's been "solved" by others, lead me to be even more suspicious about something like this getting this much attention.
      - waterapp 14y ago
        Hi Michael, I can guarantee you there's no hidden thing going on -- at least as far as we're concerned. We've taken all the feedback even though 90% was negative but I'm sure the people voting it up saw that a lot of people have this problem, maybe even themselves. I don't know how most comments could be negative while it got that many upvotes, but I can only tell we have absolutely nothing to do with it other than posting the Show HN.
        MichaelApproved 14y ago
        My last comment tends to agree with you. It seems there are many people who need this solution even with the products already out there. I hope you find lots of them and solve their problem with your product. One thing that could help with getting more customers is to create a Wordpress plug-in so more people can find you. Good luck!
manojlds 14y ago
I up voted this for the discussion going on.
- vxNsr 14y ago
  This. often someone will post something that I don't particularly like or I outright disagree with, but I feel the discussion going on in the comments is worth having and will up vote so that more people will see it and comment.
  - MichaelApproved 14y ago
    You're both right. I do that too but I didn't think this product category was something notable which warranted a deep discussion. Looks like I was wrong.

coderdude 14y ago

Most people who comment have something critical to say. Most people who up-vote don't have something critical to say and so they don't comment. I up-voted the submission and hate mailto links. You can't really judge the landscape here based on a few comments.

MichaelApproved 14y ago
I'd agree with you if most comments were critical and some were positive but were zero positive reviews. Also, often I see people shoot off one liner comments praising a website. So it's easy for people to praise when they like a post.
- coderdude 14y ago
  Indeed, I could be wrong. I think this service has a lot of potential and his site looks fantastic. He might go on to save a lot of people from headaches. Particularly, non-coders. He even has the free/paid issue worked out that so many others simply ignore until later. I was just too lazy to say anything.
  - MichaelApproved 14y ago
    "Indeed, I could be wrong." I might be the one who was wrong. As a programmer, this seems like a small solution that's already been solved with wufoo, contact forms 7 and the like but it's number 1 on HN so, even if the votes were faked (which was my initial suspicion), it looks like many people appreciate the product or want to discuss it. "Particularly, non-coders." Maybe as a programmer, my bias of how simple this solution is and how it's been "solved" by others, lead me to be even more suspicious about something like this getting this much attention.
    - waterapp 14y ago
      Hi Michael, I can guarantee you there's no hidden thing going on -- at least as far as we're concerned. We've taken all the feedback even though 90% was negative but I'm sure the people voting it up saw that a lot of people have this problem, maybe even themselves. I don't know how most comments could be negative while it got that many upvotes, but I can only tell we have absolutely nothing to do with it other than posting the Show HN.
      - MichaelApproved 14y ago
        My last comment tends to agree with you. It seems there are many people who need this solution even with the products already out there. I hope you find lots of them and solve their problem with your product. One thing that could help with getting more customers is to create a Wordpress plug-in so more people can find you. Good luck!

manojlds 14y ago

I up voted this for the discussion going on.

vxNsr 14y ago
This. often someone will post something that I don't particularly like or I outright disagree with, but I feel the discussion going on in the comments is worth having and will up vote so that more people will see it and comment.
- MichaelApproved 14y ago
  You're both right. I do that too but I didn't think this product category was something notable which warranted a deep discussion. Looks like I was wrong.