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Why? How is the government going to shut down what is basically a private decentralized p2p network? There isn't any central server they can take out and the tr
by gph 14y ago
Why? How is the government going to shut down what is basically a private decentralized p2p network? There isn't any central server they can take out and the traffic over the network would look like any other encrypted traffic.
If they gained access to the sync group with full permissions they could destroy it and get IP addresses, etc. And the format itself might not lend itself to all the needs of a political activist group. But I don't see how the cute cat theory holds any water here.
- 6d0debc071 14y agoIt would look like any other encrypted information, but I'm unsure that the traffic patterns themselves wouldn't be distinctive.
- lifeguard 14y agoNot the point of the use-case. And obviously Tor could be added to the mix.
- 6d0debc071 13y agoI'm unsure that Tor networks are viable in the long term for the same reason - they're subject to traffic analysis. Japan's police have been asking for Tor networks to be blocked over there: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22248692 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22248692
- zurn 13y ago> Why? How is the government going to shut down what is basically a private decentralized p2p network? There isn't any central server they can take out and the traffic over the network would look like any other encrypted traffic. Many ISPs, schools, cafes and corporate networks do this today already. They only allow HTTP (which goes through monitoring) and HTTPS which is decrypted by a MITM proxy (you have to allow their CA cert on your machine, uncompromised HTTPS is blocked). In many countries this type of shenanigans are forbidden by law (friendly governments exist too).
- gph 13y agoTrue, but adding cute cats to the mix isn't going to fix that either. I wasn't trying to argue that it was technically infeasible for an Orwellian government to stop it, just that it would be near impossible to stop where this type of traffic isn't already blocked.
- niels_olson 13y agoThe cute cat theory posits the resource doesn't provably work at scale until it hosts a lot of simple, vacuous content. While 200 TB exceeds the number of cute cats I have ever seen, I'm afraid it may not exceed the youtube bandwidth. It has to work before it can work well. Thus, while PGP technically works great, I haven't heard a lot of Egyptions, Syrians, etc, lauding Phil Zimmerman. Instead, they seem happier with Facebook.