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yeah, me too, and LOTS of my personal anecdotal evidence is 180 degrees opposite to yours, which is my point. you are describing the upper elite of our demogra

yeah, me too, and LOTS of my personal anecdotal evidence is 180 degrees opposite to yours, which is my point. you are describing the upper elite of our demographic group (of which i am also a member) as somehow the mode or the mean for 'asians', and i am cautioning you against that. it's really easy to be 'proud' of achievement and cheerlead and go "look at us aren't we great" but you need to be aware of selection and survivor bias, especially in the context of your elite east coast schooling which you prattle on about so boastfully. during my life i have known plenty of underachieving cokehead rich kid asians and struggling yet intelligent lower class inner city asians.

rayiner 14y ago
> you are describing the upper elite of our demographic group (of which i am also a member) as somehow the mode or the mean for 'asians', and i am cautioning you against that. I'm not describing it as the mode or the mean. I'm saying that, per my anecdotal experience, asian kids at any given income level are less likely to turn out with serious problems than other kids at the same income level. > it's really easy to be 'proud' of achievement and cheerlead and go "look at us aren't we great" I'm not cheerleading. I don't even identify as "asian" in any meaningful sense. My point is to address the myth that raising good kids means sacrificing your time to go to their school plays and little league games and whatnot. I use asians as an example not to cheerlead, but because that myth is far less prevalent among immigrant asian parents. > especially in the context of your elite east coast schooling which you prattle on about so boastfully. There's nothing elite about it, it's a public school. I mention it because: 1) it's got a race-blind admissions system, unlike elite colleges, so the asian population isn't artificially deflated; 2) it's a pretty stark example of asian over-representation, in a county where the median household income for asians, while high, is actually less than that for whites by a substantial margin. I also specifically mention the "east coast" part, because in my experience east coast asians are far less assimilated than west coast asians, as there is a far smaller population of asians who have been in the U.S. for generations. Again, this article was a criticism directed at Sheryl Sandberg, implying that she gave her kids a compromised upbringing by not making them her only priority. And I think that's a load of crap.

rayiner 14y ago

> you are describing the upper elite of our demographic group (of which i am also a member) as somehow the mode or the mean for 'asians', and i am cautioning you against that. I'm not describing it as the mode or the mean. I'm saying that, per my anecdotal experience, asian kids at any given income level are less likely to turn out with serious problems than other kids at the same income level. > it's really easy to be 'proud' of achievement and cheerlead and go "look at us aren't we great" I'm not cheerleading. I don't even identify as "asian" in any meaningful sense. My point is to address the myth that raising good kids means sacrificing your time to go to their school plays and little league games and whatnot. I use asians as an example not to cheerlead, but because that myth is far less prevalent among immigrant asian parents. > especially in the context of your elite east coast schooling which you prattle on about so boastfully. There's nothing elite about it, it's a public school. I mention it because: 1) it's got a race-blind admissions system, unlike elite colleges, so the asian population isn't artificially deflated; 2) it's a pretty stark example of asian over-representation, in a county where the median household income for asians, while high, is actually less than that for whites by a substantial margin. I also specifically mention the "east coast" part, because in my experience east coast asians are far less assimilated than west coast asians, as there is a far smaller population of asians who have been in the U.S. for generations. Again, this article was a criticism directed at Sheryl Sandberg, implying that she gave her kids a compromised upbringing by not making them her only priority. And I think that's a load of crap.