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My immediate thoughts as well. Perhaps a different scenario. eg- Anyone can easily just take their friends key, snap a pic and have creep access to their house

by fatbat 13y ago

My immediate thoughts as well. Perhaps a different scenario. eg- Anyone can easily just take their friends key, snap a pic and have creep access to their house/car/locker/safe/etc. I am not sure if this kind of easy service is a good one to have around. Do not forget real-world security too!

eridius 13y ago
The "Security" page addresses this very concern: > Keyjacking is not allowed > Worried someone's going surreptitiously copy your key with our service? Not to worry. We don't accept surreptitious or flyby pictures of keys. The key must be held in the person's hand, with their fingers visible. In any case, we require a credit card to ship the key, so in case of fraud, identity can be traced back. We respond swiftly to all inquiry from law enforcement agencies.
- NuZZ 13y ago
  The victim wouldn't even know the key was cut by this service. So the friend/plumber/handyman or whoever could just take the picture, get the key cut and then raid the place without anyone knowing. Seems legit.
  - namdnay 13y ago
    Indeed. In Germany for example, employees of this company could be tried as accomplices to the crime if it was found that they had duplicated a house key without asking for proof of residence.
  - VLM 13y ago
    This sounds extremely complicated compared to the somewhat more realistic "throw the jewelry in the toolbox and walk out" or the "unlock a window" approach. The most realistic approach is to lie to the customer... "well, we need to special order a left handed crescent wrench and some frequency grease and also do some mold abatement". This is before we get started with outright insurance fraud and the like. It could happen, but it sounds a lot more like a hollywood movie plot security threat than a real security threat.
- fatbat 13y ago
  My bad, I missed that part. But I still think those conditions are far from sufficient. A sharp picture and a credit card?! Really? How would anyone even resolve that this service was the accessory to the crime? I like the slowness and hassle of duplicating keys because I know that someone would have to swipe my keys to do that. Not just snap a clear picture. The future is probably with smarter locks, not enhancing what is broken.

by fatbat 13y ago

eridius 13y ago

The "Security" page addresses this very concern: > Keyjacking is not allowed > Worried someone's going surreptitiously copy your key with our service? Not to worry. We don't accept surreptitious or flyby pictures of keys. The key must be held in the person's hand, with their fingers visible. In any case, we require a credit card to ship the key, so in case of fraud, identity can be traced back. We respond swiftly to all inquiry from law enforcement agencies.

NuZZ 13y ago
The victim wouldn't even know the key was cut by this service. So the friend/plumber/handyman or whoever could just take the picture, get the key cut and then raid the place without anyone knowing. Seems legit.
- namdnay 13y ago
  Indeed. In Germany for example, employees of this company could be tried as accomplices to the crime if it was found that they had duplicated a house key without asking for proof of residence.
- VLM 13y ago
  This sounds extremely complicated compared to the somewhat more realistic "throw the jewelry in the toolbox and walk out" or the "unlock a window" approach. The most realistic approach is to lie to the customer... "well, we need to special order a left handed crescent wrench and some frequency grease and also do some mold abatement". This is before we get started with outright insurance fraud and the like. It could happen, but it sounds a lot more like a hollywood movie plot security threat than a real security threat.
fatbat 13y ago
My bad, I missed that part. But I still think those conditions are far from sufficient. A sharp picture and a credit card?! Really? How would anyone even resolve that this service was the accessory to the crime? I like the slowness and hassle of duplicating keys because I know that someone would have to swipe my keys to do that. Not just snap a clear picture. The future is probably with smarter locks, not enhancing what is broken.