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Well two of them won't make it into any decision making position after the next election and we know what happens to the Social Democrats in a big coalition...

by aluhut 14y ago

Well two of them won't make it into any decision making position after the next election and we know what happens to the Social Democrats in a big coalition... "Wer hat uns verraten..."

skrebbel 14y ago
No, we don't know. This is HN, not forum.discussgermanpoliticsinenglish.com. Care to elaborate?
- dualogy 14y ago
  Here's another idea, let's not even go there... German politics is just as stale a topic as anywhere really..
- fosap 14y ago
  "Wer hat uns verraten... Sozialdemokraten" is a rhyme and means "Who betrayed us? Sozialdemocrates!" originally used by communist because the Sozialdemocrates never where revolutionary or anti-capitalist. The slogan is used right now to say the SPD is very weak on all their positions and a fan of half hearted compromises.
  - mtowle 14y ago
    >The slogan is used right now to say the SPD is very weak on all their positions and a fan of half hearted compromises. Funny how pervasive the "progressive* party leadership has the will but doesn't know the way" trope is across progressives of all stripes and nations (e.g., Mr Obama's perceived capitulation on the so-called Public Option for healthcare). One could probably write a doctoral thesis analyzing the reasons for the ubiquity of the sentiment! *Word chosen over 'leftist' or 'democratic' to avoid differences in meaning from country to country
walshemj 14y ago
The greens got their way on nuclear power
DasIch 14y ago
That might not be an issue actually. I don't see the CDU necessarily opposed to net neutrality. They are not known for being net-friendly so this it seems obvious that they might be but I don't see net neutrality being in conflict with their ideology or provoking any other problems for them, at least not in a big way. There is no downside for security or copyright stuff to be aware of here, if the don't cooperate with the FDP after the next coalition the business side will also not be a problem. Supporting net neutrality could be a good and fairly painless way to make the more moderate parts of the party and voter base happy, which is something that becomes more and more important after recent dramas.

by aluhut 14y ago

Well two of them won't make it into any decision making position after the next election and we know what happens to the Social Democrats in a big coalition... "Wer hat uns verraten..."

skrebbel 14y ago

No, we don't know. This is HN, not forum.discussgermanpoliticsinenglish.com. Care to elaborate?

dualogy 14y ago
Here's another idea, let's not even go there... German politics is just as stale a topic as anywhere really..
fosap 14y ago
"Wer hat uns verraten... Sozialdemokraten" is a rhyme and means "Who betrayed us? Sozialdemocrates!" originally used by communist because the Sozialdemocrates never where revolutionary or anti-capitalist. The slogan is used right now to say the SPD is very weak on all their positions and a fan of half hearted compromises.
- mtowle 14y ago
  >The slogan is used right now to say the SPD is very weak on all their positions and a fan of half hearted compromises. Funny how pervasive the "progressive* party leadership has the will but doesn't know the way" trope is across progressives of all stripes and nations (e.g., Mr Obama's perceived capitulation on the so-called Public Option for healthcare). One could probably write a doctoral thesis analyzing the reasons for the ubiquity of the sentiment! *Word chosen over 'leftist' or 'democratic' to avoid differences in meaning from country to country

walshemj 14y ago

The greens got their way on nuclear power

DasIch 14y ago

That might not be an issue actually. I don't see the CDU necessarily opposed to net neutrality. They are not known for being net-friendly so this it seems obvious that they might be but I don't see net neutrality being in conflict with their ideology or provoking any other problems for them, at least not in a big way. There is no downside for security or copyright stuff to be aware of here, if the don't cooperate with the FDP after the next coalition the business side will also not be a problem. Supporting net neutrality could be a good and fairly painless way to make the more moderate parts of the party and voter base happy, which is something that becomes more and more important after recent dramas.