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This is irrelevant. those intrusive apps are made with carrier integration in mind. You can't uninstall Facebook from any Samsung phone. And you won't uninsta

by gcb0 14y ago

This is irrelevant. those intrusive apps are made with carrier integration in mind. You can't uninstall Facebook from any Samsung phone. And you won't uninstall Facebook home from the new s4 and updated s3 and notes. So, why care about user ratings?

da_n 14y ago
> You can't uninstall Facebook from any Samsung phone This is why I never stick with stock ROM (unless Nexus device), I have Cyanogenmod running on my Note II.
Karunamon 14y ago
You can't "uninstall" any app that the carrier forces on you, but you can disable it as of ICS or better. The app is both prevented from running and hidden from the app drawer. In practice, the amount of storage you're denied from not being able to completely wipe these apps is miniscule. Just one of the neat bits of control that the newer Android versions give you :)
- kevincrane 14y ago
  Wait, can you do that for the Google-default apps too? I have a half dozen Google+ settings/messengers/other things that I can't uninstall from my phone (Nexus), when I really just want to hide them from view.
  - gehar 14y ago
    Yes, you can Disable (most of?) them (in the same place you would Uninstall another app.) Disabling some of them, like the Google Play Services component (famous for killing batteries on Nexus 7 tablets), will cause apps (like G+) to nag you to Enable them.
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    My Galaxy Nexus lets me do it, anyways. I tried on the Play Store, GMail, etc. Looks like the only things it doesn't work on are the apps that are the interface to basic phone functions (dialer, messaging, etc).
    - gcb0 14y ago
      sorry, we are talking about carrier locked phones and custom samsung images. Nexus devices do not fit the bill.
      - Karunamon 14y ago
        Parent comment was explicitly referencing a Nexus device...
        gcb0 14y ago
        But he was replying to my comment regarding Samsung phones
r00fus 14y ago
I had no idea that "open" Android was so locked down for your average (ie, non-rooting) user. Combine with bootloader locks, and you have mandatory privacy invading apps. And some people think Apple is Big Brother?
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  Not sure why gcb0 elided to point out that since 4.0 Android allows disabling built in apps. (Functionality equivalent to deleting, except their space in the ROM is still occupied). Locked/unlocked bootloaders is a fairly different issue and is seeming to be much less of an issue lately.
  - gcb0 14y ago
    mostly because i never used a carrier locked in device. but i just took a quick look on my wife's noteII, and the only thing i could do was to 'hide' the app from the drawer. there were no "disable" option.
    - mcintyre1994 14y ago
      I guess the OEM might be allowed to remove the option, but it should be under apps settings. It won't be in the drawer menu if that's where you're looking.

by gcb0 14y ago

da_n 14y ago

> You can't uninstall Facebook from any Samsung phone This is why I never stick with stock ROM (unless Nexus device), I have Cyanogenmod running on my Note II.

Karunamon 14y ago

You can't "uninstall" any app that the carrier forces on you, but you can disable it as of ICS or better. The app is both prevented from running and hidden from the app drawer. In practice, the amount of storage you're denied from not being able to completely wipe these apps is miniscule. Just one of the neat bits of control that the newer Android versions give you :)

kevincrane 14y ago
Wait, can you do that for the Google-default apps too? I have a half dozen Google+ settings/messengers/other things that I can't uninstall from my phone (Nexus), when I really just want to hide them from view.
- gehar 14y ago
  Yes, you can Disable (most of?) them (in the same place you would Uninstall another app.) Disabling some of them, like the Google Play Services component (famous for killing batteries on Nexus 7 tablets), will cause apps (like G+) to nag you to Enable them.
- Karunamon 14y ago
  My Galaxy Nexus lets me do it, anyways. I tried on the Play Store, GMail, etc. Looks like the only things it doesn't work on are the apps that are the interface to basic phone functions (dialer, messaging, etc).
  - gcb0 14y ago
    sorry, we are talking about carrier locked phones and custom samsung images. Nexus devices do not fit the bill.
    - Karunamon 14y ago
      Parent comment was explicitly referencing a Nexus device...
      - gcb0 14y ago
        But he was replying to my comment regarding Samsung phones

r00fus 14y ago

I had no idea that "open" Android was so locked down for your average (ie, non-rooting) user. Combine with bootloader locks, and you have mandatory privacy invading apps. And some people think Apple is Big Brother?

drivebyacct2 14y ago
Not sure why gcb0 elided to point out that since 4.0 Android allows disabling built in apps. (Functionality equivalent to deleting, except their space in the ROM is still occupied). Locked/unlocked bootloaders is a fairly different issue and is seeming to be much less of an issue lately.
- gcb0 14y ago
  mostly because i never used a carrier locked in device. but i just took a quick look on my wife's noteII, and the only thing i could do was to 'hide' the app from the drawer. there were no "disable" option.
  - mcintyre1994 14y ago
    I guess the OEM might be allowed to remove the option, but it should be under apps settings. It won't be in the drawer menu if that's where you're looking.