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I would argue that an open smartphone ecosystem is innovative. Not original, but innovative. Google Now IS innovative. Google's method for voice recognition

I would argue that an open smartphone ecosystem is innovative. Not original, but innovative. Google Now IS innovative. Google's method for voice recognition is certainly innovative, as are the myriad ways in which they have implemented that core technology. Google voice (grandcentral) was certainly innovative; the calling system and the text transcription in most specific. My main problem with your exchange is my perception of you constantly moving the goalposts. I don't see how you can categorically reject 'technical, low-visibility innovation' unless your argument is presupposed. Furthermore, most of these achievements are acquire/hires, and we have seen the big G push these purchased assets into new features or products. I would argue that this capability IS the basic facility to innovate the marketplace. (gmail has indeed revolutionized webmail, both in size of free storage and in the mailbox organizational methods)

lobster_johnson 13y ago
Symbian was an open smartphone ecosystem. Google is just taking it a step further (to serve its own ends, of course). I am not moving the goalposts. The original article was about Google web products such as Chrome and Reader. The only non-productized item mentioned was OpenID, which concerns integration with the rest of the web and could be considered a feature of their user-facing products. These things are the things that matter to people when they view Google as a company. Not whether Maps has vector graphics. So, yeah, for the purposes of this discussion, I do discount technical, low-visibility innovation. If we are talking purely about technology, then sure, Google is probably an innovation leader.
nosequel 13y ago
"Google voice (grandcentral) was certainly innovative; the calling system and the text transcription in most specific." As an original GrandCentral user, I take this as a complete insult. Google bought GrandCentral and removed features. So chalk this one up to negative innovation.

lobster_johnson 13y ago

Symbian was an open smartphone ecosystem. Google is just taking it a step further (to serve its own ends, of course). I am not moving the goalposts. The original article was about Google web products such as Chrome and Reader. The only non-productized item mentioned was OpenID, which concerns integration with the rest of the web and could be considered a feature of their user-facing products. These things are the things that matter to people when they view Google as a company. Not whether Maps has vector graphics. So, yeah, for the purposes of this discussion, I do discount technical, low-visibility innovation. If we are talking purely about technology, then sure, Google is probably an innovation leader.

nosequel 13y ago

"Google voice (grandcentral) was certainly innovative; the calling system and the text transcription in most specific." As an original GrandCentral user, I take this as a complete insult. Google bought GrandCentral and removed features. So chalk this one up to negative innovation.