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Powerset: Move Over, Google

4 points by chwolfe 19y ago

pg 19y ago
What an unbelievable press hit. If Powerset's hackers were as good as their PR people, we'd all be using it already.
- aston 19y ago
  Huge pre-release hype has definitely been shown to be a reliable non-pattern for success of websites.
  - pg 19y ago
    Yeah, interesting, that one. Wonder why. Perhaps because it costs a lot to do PR on this scale, and there are two routes to that kind of funding: to have built something that already works (Google, Facebook, Delicious), or to have high-profile founders and grand-sounding plans (Flock, Mahalo, Powerset). So a startup with lots of PR but no product must be the second type.
- deltapoint 19y ago
  Why do you think Powerset's pr people are able to get so much and such positive press.
- chwolfe 19y ago
  The PR is so damn good it will probably cause expectations to be completely out of whack (usually a problem startups do not have to worry about).
ivankirigin 19y ago
I recently saw a demo of Invention Machine, which does semantic extraction of a body of data. They integrate it with engineering processing tools, and their target market is companies that have a process that they can improve. The problem with semantic search is that out of context, it doesn't buy you much. Note how many of the demos of Powerset have been on a tiny body of data. I'm very familiar with the state of art in natural language processing. Invention Machine is pretty good. Powerset seems pretty good. It is silly to think that Google, with a mass of excellent engineers and folks like Norvig heading the effort, will be beaten because Powerset will go public with semantic search features sooner. Google certainly has people working on it. Even a marginal improvement on search or adWords relevance would get them millions. Unless they are already a sloth of a big company, there is a reason such features aren't released. My guess is that the techniques aren't good enough yet to take on the entire web.
gms 19y ago
These guys are so screwed.

4 points by chwolfe 19y ago

pg 19y ago

What an unbelievable press hit. If Powerset's hackers were as good as their PR people, we'd all be using it already.

aston 19y ago
Huge pre-release hype has definitely been shown to be a reliable non-pattern for success of websites.
- pg 19y ago
  Yeah, interesting, that one. Wonder why. Perhaps because it costs a lot to do PR on this scale, and there are two routes to that kind of funding: to have built something that already works (Google, Facebook, Delicious), or to have high-profile founders and grand-sounding plans (Flock, Mahalo, Powerset). So a startup with lots of PR but no product must be the second type.
deltapoint 19y ago
Why do you think Powerset's pr people are able to get so much and such positive press.
chwolfe 19y ago
The PR is so damn good it will probably cause expectations to be completely out of whack (usually a problem startups do not have to worry about).

ivankirigin 19y ago

I recently saw a demo of Invention Machine, which does semantic extraction of a body of data. They integrate it with engineering processing tools, and their target market is companies that have a process that they can improve. The problem with semantic search is that out of context, it doesn't buy you much. Note how many of the demos of Powerset have been on a tiny body of data. I'm very familiar with the state of art in natural language processing. Invention Machine is pretty good. Powerset seems pretty good. It is silly to think that Google, with a mass of excellent engineers and folks like Norvig heading the effort, will be beaten because Powerset will go public with semantic search features sooner. Google certainly has people working on it. Even a marginal improvement on search or adWords relevance would get them millions. Unless they are already a sloth of a big company, there is a reason such features aren't released. My guess is that the techniques aren't good enough yet to take on the entire web.

gms 19y ago

These guys are so screwed.