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Does Amazon not run their website on AWS? I assumed (incorrectly, apparently) that AWS was originally built to allow Amazon to scale their own services. Is it

by Osiris 14y ago

Does Amazon not run their website on AWS? I assumed (incorrectly, apparently) that AWS was originally built to allow Amazon to scale their own services. Is it really a separate product that they don't use themselves?

mathrawka 14y ago
Just because a site is on AWS does not mean it cannot go down for its own reasons. There are more failures possible than infrastructure.
simonster 14y ago
Just because the servers themselves are up doesn't mean that the software running on the servers is up (or that it's capable of handling the load). I just got my shopping cart to load, but it took quite a long time. Maybe they're getting DOSed.
knowtheory 14y ago
Originally, that's true, Amazon didn't run on AWS afaik. But i believe they do now. Nevertheless, they still have application architecture which sits above the aws substrate. It's perfectly feasible for them to have seriously fucked up a deployment that runs on top of AWS, which may be functioning just fine (and at least all of my services running out of us-east seem to be up and running).
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datasage 14y ago
Just because Amazon is down, doesn't mean the infrastructure is the reason. They did build AWS out of the technology they used to build Amazon, but its unclear if they are using it directly or use an isolated set of services.
- spartango 14y ago
  Amazon uses AWS to host Amazon.com (retail), although you can imagine that they dodge the billing structure and have quite a number of resources dedicated away from the main AWS fleets.
liveaxle 14y ago
AFAIK the "Amazon runs on AWS" meme was originally a line of pure marketing tripe.
- frehpt 14y ago
  Incorrect, Amazon.com runs on AWS: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5588012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5588012
  - nevir 14y ago
    AWS tech maybe, but you can be pretty assured that the data centers (or at least networks) are are almost completely segregated.
    - crucifiction 14y ago
      Nope, its all mixed outside of software segregation.
brokentone 14y ago
I thought the same. Werner Vogels, their CTO, said at the NYC cloud event that they moved amazon.com to it in 2010, and amazon.com international in 2011.
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by Osiris 14y ago

mathrawka 14y ago

Just because a site is on AWS does not mean it cannot go down for its own reasons. There are more failures possible than infrastructure.

simonster 14y ago

Just because the servers themselves are up doesn't mean that the software running on the servers is up (or that it's capable of handling the load). I just got my shopping cart to load, but it took quite a long time. Maybe they're getting DOSed.

knowtheory 14y ago

Originally, that's true, Amazon didn't run on AWS afaik. But i believe they do now. Nevertheless, they still have application architecture which sits above the aws substrate. It's perfectly feasible for them to have seriously fucked up a deployment that runs on top of AWS, which may be functioning just fine (and at least all of my services running out of us-east seem to be up and running).

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datasage 14y ago

Just because Amazon is down, doesn't mean the infrastructure is the reason. They did build AWS out of the technology they used to build Amazon, but its unclear if they are using it directly or use an isolated set of services.

spartango 14y ago
Amazon uses AWS to host Amazon.com (retail), although you can imagine that they dodge the billing structure and have quite a number of resources dedicated away from the main AWS fleets.

liveaxle 14y ago

AFAIK the "Amazon runs on AWS" meme was originally a line of pure marketing tripe.

frehpt 14y ago
Incorrect, Amazon.com runs on AWS: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5588012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5588012
- nevir 14y ago
  AWS tech maybe, but you can be pretty assured that the data centers (or at least networks) are are almost completely segregated.
  - crucifiction 14y ago
    Nope, its all mixed outside of software segregation.

brokentone 14y ago

I thought the same. Werner Vogels, their CTO, said at the NYC cloud event that they moved amazon.com to it in 2010, and amazon.com international in 2011.

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