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Thanks, but you didn't try calling that number, did you? It is disconnected.

by jdrobins2000 13y ago

miles 13y ago
A quick whois search turns up yet more: 415-513-5196 domain.admin@obvious.com 2601 Mission Street, San Francisco, CA, 94401
- jdrobins2000 13y ago
  Thanks! Seems like an unconventional and creative route. I've used whois of course, but never to get contact info for a well-known company, so I didn't even think about it. I will give it a (admittedly long) shot. Oh and for the record, yes I had already tried the number on crunch base. I've also sent a twitter message, but no response yet.
  - miles 13y ago
    I guess my point was this: it shows a lack of motivation and drive saying that you can't find out how to contact a company you are genuinely interested in. The Google and whois queries took less than 30 seconds to come up with and perform. A motivated person should be able to do much better in 10 or 15 minutes. May you find what you are looking for!
    - jdrobins2000 13y ago
      Thanks, I appreciate the well wishes and practical help in getting there. I certainly understand your reasoning, even if my conclusion is different. I try to be careful not to judge anything based on one small aspect without considering the whole, or jump to conclusions on a decidedly complex issue (any human action, really, including my own). You may of course do as you wish. I did the google query a couple days ago, called the number twice to verify the disconnected message wasn't the result of a weird network error, then did several more queries and surfing around their various web sites (obvious.com, which now redirects to medium.com, jellyhq.com (where I promptly subscribed to the early adopter list), media stories, and social media accounts, to no avail. I spent much more than 15 minutes on it, and hopefully my post here displays at least a modicum of motivation and drive. I made the remark because I thought it was odd, not as a request for someone else to do my homework for me, but I appreciate your initiative. I think what you read as lack of motivation, I believe is infrequent use of whois (due to its irrelevance for the vast majority of my work on classified networks) and especially in this capacity, leading to oversight of that tool as potentially useful for solving my problem. I overlooked the whois suggestion in your first post, because I was in the middle of composing a response to someone else, and probably because my attention went straight to the phone number I recognized. I am sorry my oversight inconvenienced you, but I do appreciate you lending your expertise to help (however trivial it was to you). I think it would be accurate to see this as a weakness of lesser familiarity with certain things due to having spent large amounts of time in a different environment. That would be fair. I just think those type of things are generally easy to pick up, compared to the things that are difficult to learn, or just can't be taught period. Not unimportant or trivial, but a minor challenge. And those concepts that are difficult or critical to get right the first time, are the reason why I applied to YC, and why I am asking HNers for advice. And I will make every effort to eventually give back more than I receive.
      - miles 13y ago
        Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You are clearly well-spoken and patient, two excellent traits in any profession. Godspeed!
        jdrobins2000 13y ago
        Number called, no answer, anonymous voicemail recording. Message left, fingers crossed... star wished upon. Ironic that I may need to resort to snail mail.
        miles 13y ago
        Number called, no answer, anonymous voicemail recording. Message left, fingers crossed... star wished upon. I'm sorry, you're still missing the point. You can and should do FAR more than this if you are truly motivated. I strongly recommend you read Think and Grow Rich: http://archive.org/details/Think_and_Grow_Rich http://archive.org/details/Think_and_Grow_Rich Here's a taste: TRULY, "thoughts are things," and powerful things at that, when they are mixed with definiteness of purpose, persistence, and a BURNING DESIRE for their translation into riches, or other material objects. A little more than thirty years ago, Edwin C. Barnes discovered how true it is that men really do THINK AND GROW RICH. His discovery did not come about at one sitting. It came little by little, beginning with a BURNING DESIRE to become a business associate of the great Edison. One of the chief characteristics of Barnes' Desire was that it was definite. He wanted to work with Edison, not for him. Observe, carefully, the description of how he went about translating his DESIRE into reality, and you will have a better understanding of the thirteen principles which lead to riches. When this DESIRE, or impulse of thought, first flashed into his mind he was in no position to act upon it. Two difficulties stood in his way. He did not know Mr. Edison, and he did not have enough money to pay his railroad fare to Orange, New Jersey. These difficulties were sufficient to have discouraged the majority of men from making any attempt to carry out the desire. But his was no ordinary desire! He was so determined to find a way to carry out his desire that he finally decided to travel by "blind baggage," rather than be defeated. (To the uninitiated, this means that he went to East Orange on a freight train). He presented himself at Mr. Edison's laboratory, and announced he had come to go into business with the inventor. In speaking of the first meeting between Barnes and Edison, years later, Mr. Edison said, "He stood there before me, looking like an ordinary tramp, but there was something in the expression of his face which conveyed the impression that he was determined to get what he had come after. I had learned, from years of experience with men, that when a man really DESIRES a thing so deeply that he is willing to stake his entire future on a single turn of the wheel in order to get it, he is sure to win. I gave him the opportunity he asked for, because I saw he had made up his mind to stand by until he succeeded. Subsequent events proved that no mistake was made."

Thanks, but you didn't try calling that number, did you? It is disconnected.

miles 13y ago

A quick whois search turns up yet more: 415-513-5196 domain.admin@obvious.com 2601 Mission Street, San Francisco, CA, 94401

jdrobins2000 13y ago
Thanks! Seems like an unconventional and creative route. I've used whois of course, but never to get contact info for a well-known company, so I didn't even think about it. I will give it a (admittedly long) shot. Oh and for the record, yes I had already tried the number on crunch base. I've also sent a twitter message, but no response yet.
- miles 13y ago
  I guess my point was this: it shows a lack of motivation and drive saying that you can't find out how to contact a company you are genuinely interested in. The Google and whois queries took less than 30 seconds to come up with and perform. A motivated person should be able to do much better in 10 or 15 minutes. May you find what you are looking for!
  - jdrobins2000 13y ago
    Thanks, I appreciate the well wishes and practical help in getting there. I certainly understand your reasoning, even if my conclusion is different. I try to be careful not to judge anything based on one small aspect without considering the whole, or jump to conclusions on a decidedly complex issue (any human action, really, including my own). You may of course do as you wish. I did the google query a couple days ago, called the number twice to verify the disconnected message wasn't the result of a weird network error, then did several more queries and surfing around their various web sites (obvious.com, which now redirects to medium.com, jellyhq.com (where I promptly subscribed to the early adopter list), media stories, and social media accounts, to no avail. I spent much more than 15 minutes on it, and hopefully my post here displays at least a modicum of motivation and drive. I made the remark because I thought it was odd, not as a request for someone else to do my homework for me, but I appreciate your initiative. I think what you read as lack of motivation, I believe is infrequent use of whois (due to its irrelevance for the vast majority of my work on classified networks) and especially in this capacity, leading to oversight of that tool as potentially useful for solving my problem. I overlooked the whois suggestion in your first post, because I was in the middle of composing a response to someone else, and probably because my attention went straight to the phone number I recognized. I am sorry my oversight inconvenienced you, but I do appreciate you lending your expertise to help (however trivial it was to you). I think it would be accurate to see this as a weakness of lesser familiarity with certain things due to having spent large amounts of time in a different environment. That would be fair. I just think those type of things are generally easy to pick up, compared to the things that are difficult to learn, or just can't be taught period. Not unimportant or trivial, but a minor challenge. And those concepts that are difficult or critical to get right the first time, are the reason why I applied to YC, and why I am asking HNers for advice. And I will make every effort to eventually give back more than I receive.
    - miles 13y ago
      Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You are clearly well-spoken and patient, two excellent traits in any profession. Godspeed!
      - jdrobins2000 13y ago
        Number called, no answer, anonymous voicemail recording. Message left, fingers crossed... star wished upon. Ironic that I may need to resort to snail mail.
        miles 13y ago
        Number called, no answer, anonymous voicemail recording. Message left, fingers crossed... star wished upon. I'm sorry, you're still missing the point. You can and should do FAR more than this if you are truly motivated. I strongly recommend you read Think and Grow Rich: http://archive.org/details/Think_and_Grow_Rich http://archive.org/details/Think_and_Grow_Rich Here's a taste: TRULY, "thoughts are things," and powerful things at that, when they are mixed with definiteness of purpose, persistence, and a BURNING DESIRE for their translation into riches, or other material objects. A little more than thirty years ago, Edwin C. Barnes discovered how true it is that men really do THINK AND GROW RICH. His discovery did not come about at one sitting. It came little by little, beginning with a BURNING DESIRE to become a business associate of the great Edison. One of the chief characteristics of Barnes' Desire was that it was definite. He wanted to work with Edison, not for him. Observe, carefully, the description of how he went about translating his DESIRE into reality, and you will have a better understanding of the thirteen principles which lead to riches. When this DESIRE, or impulse of thought, first flashed into his mind he was in no position to act upon it. Two difficulties stood in his way. He did not know Mr. Edison, and he did not have enough money to pay his railroad fare to Orange, New Jersey. These difficulties were sufficient to have discouraged the majority of men from making any attempt to carry out the desire. But his was no ordinary desire! He was so determined to find a way to carry out his desire that he finally decided to travel by "blind baggage," rather than be defeated. (To the uninitiated, this means that he went to East Orange on a freight train). He presented himself at Mr. Edison's laboratory, and announced he had come to go into business with the inventor. In speaking of the first meeting between Barnes and Edison, years later, Mr. Edison said, "He stood there before me, looking like an ordinary tramp, but there was something in the expression of his face which conveyed the impression that he was determined to get what he had come after. I had learned, from years of experience with men, that when a man really DESIRES a thing so deeply that he is willing to stake his entire future on a single turn of the wheel in order to get it, he is sure to win. I gave him the opportunity he asked for, because I saw he had made up his mind to stand by until he succeeded. Subsequent events proved that no mistake was made."